K341 15 amp stator transition

[Snoopy11 5,714]

Hello my good people.

 

A few of you know that I have a k341... that has the 3 amp charging system. I really... REALLY want LED lights on the tractor... and have been talking with a few electrical gurus about putting LED lights on the AC output of the stator.

 

WELL... I have decided not to chance the LED lights on the OEM stator AC output... and have ordered a 15 amp stator and regulator from IST.

 

I don't necessarily trust kits on Fleabay... so I just decided to pay the piper and buy a quality stator and regulator.

 

Obviously, this mochine is going to be rewired for the new system... but one question that I have is... does it matter where the regulator is mounted... engine... frame... etc?

 

I will use quality wires and connectors on this transition as well, as I am sure that you guys can imagine. Full picture documentation will accompany this thread, of course.

 

Don

[Jeff-C175 7,203]

1 hour ago, Snoopy11 said:

does it matter where the regulator is mounted

 

No... as long as the wires reach!  and it has a good ground.

 

 

[peter lena 8,853]

@Snoopy11  have led,s on mine , also have enhanced grounding , thats the key , don't take for granted  that your ground is there , especially if its the original set up , corrosion usually , makes that funky . just for a verification  once mounted . alligator clip  test  wire ,  battery ground  cable bolt mount , to rectifier , how does that work?  pete 

[pfrederi 17,969]

Makes no difference for the old large style regulators but the new small ones need to be mounted in the airshroud to get cooling.

[Achto 27,908]

Not a bad idea to up grade your charging, but it may not be necessary if you are going with LED lights. For example - If an 1156 incandescent bulb pull 2amps, an LED 1156 will pull 0.2amps.  There are of course some fluctuations, but on average an LED draws about 1/10th the amperage that an incandescent does to produce the same amount of light.

[Snoopy11 5,714]

2 minutes ago, Achto said:

Not a bad idea to up grade your charging, but it may not be necessary if you are going with LED lights. For example - If an 1156 incandescent bulb pull 2amps, an LED 1156 will pull 0.2amps.  There are of course some fluctuations, but on average an LED draws about 1/10th the amperage that an incandescent does to produce the same amount of light.

Do you think it will flicker?

 

The LED lights that I ordered can run on up to 30 volts...

 

Don

[Achto 27,908]

1 minute ago, Snoopy11 said:

Do you think it will flicker?

 

I have had some that would flicker. I cured my issue by running a separate ground to the light fixture instead of relying on the body of the tractor to carry the ground. 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

Just now, Achto said:

I cured my issue by running a separate ground to the light fixture instead of relying on the body of the tractor to carry the ground.

I always end up doing that anyway... running a ground to each light...

 

I would love for my 416-8 to charge the battery faster than it currently does. I don't "mind" the 3 amp system... but it seems like I have to run the tractor at full throttle for an hour just to get the battery charged back up from starting...

 

I think I will install the lights... see how they run off the AC power... and save the stator and regulator for hard times... or maybe I won't like how they run off AC... and will change it sooner.

 

Anyway...  at least I will have the parts in stock...

 

Don

[Snoopy11 5,714]

By the way, @Achto... you or anyone else have any ideas on where I could ****** some tail lights for the 416-8? 

 

I was looking online... just don't know what would be the best thing. LED lights would obviously be optimal...

 

EDIT... why does the forum censor the word "s.n.a.t.c.h"...?

 

Don

Edited September 13, 2022 by Snoopy11

[Achto 27,908]

4 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

tail lights for the 416-8?

 

I like to use this style marker lights. They look similar to the factory ones.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Partsam-Clearance-Rectangular-Reflectorized-Accessories/dp/B00VT6V6N4

[Snoopy11 5,714]

1 minute ago, Achto said:

 

I like to use this style marker lights. They look similar to the factory ones.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Partsam-Clearance-Rectangular-Reflectorized-Accessories/dp/B00VT6V6N4

Those even look similar to the reflectors that I put on it!!! WOOOHOOO! 

 

I bought them!

 

Don

[Jeff-C175 7,203]

1 hour ago, Snoopy11 said:

Those even look similar to the reflectors that I put on it!!! WOOOHOOO! 

 

I bought them!

 

Don

 

Those look like the ones I got for the 125, except mine have black bases... 

I think I sent ya pics of that at one time?  Here's one again...  the toggle switch ahead of the seat switch is for the rear flood. (also LED)

 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

1 hour ago, Jeff-C175 said:

I think I sent ya pics of that at one time?

Oh yeah! I remember those! I really liked those A LOT!!!

 

Don

[953 nut 56,137]

7 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

. does it matter where the regulator is mounted

Like Paul @pfrederi said, depends on what regulator you bought.

[ineedanother 1,369]

4 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

By the way, @Achto... you or anyone else have any ideas on where I could ****** some tail lights for the 416-8? 

 

I was looking online... just don't know what would be the best thing. LED lights would obviously be optimal...

 

EDIT... why does the forum censor the word "s.n.a.t.c.h"...?

 

Don

I see you've already ordered some but some of the bigger truck stops can be a good source for LED markers. 

[Snoopy11 5,714]

Tractor got pulled back into the garage last night. I seriously doubt that I am going to get the golf cart fixed before my next machine shows up next weekend... so to make room... I will probably keep the 416-8 in the garage for a while.

 

IN THE DARK DARK...

 

 

LET. THERE. BE. LIGHTS!!! And some... BOOM SHACKA LACKA, SHACKA LACKA, SHACKA LACKA...

 

 

Old...

 

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New...

 

 

Rear:

 

 

Front:

 

 

Side (see if you can find where I put the regulator in this picture):

 

 

I'm satisfied. My main gripe with IST... is that NO hardware is included... so... the little screws that hold on the stock stator do not work. Luckily I am a screw hoarder...

 

@kpinnc... I don't know if you saw this or not... you mentioned for me to do this upgrade a while ago.

 

Don

[ineedanother 1,369]

Looks great Don. Regulator on the frame  I like it.

[Snoopy11 5,714]

1 minute ago, ineedanother said:

Regulator on the frame

You win the prize!

 

The old stator!

 

 

I can ship to your home... or whatever address you desire (including your local landfill)...

 

Don

[kpinnc 12,766]

3 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

@kpinnc... I don't know if you saw this or not... you mentioned for me to do this upgrade a while ago.

 

Looks great!! 

 

Always good to have more power! 

[Jeff-C175 7,203]

Those headlights need some eyelashes.

[squonk 41,627]

This always cracked me up for years. Why would lighting manufacturers like Dietz, Grote ect. Make DOT spec'd products with inter-changeable lenses and bases but make for example rear reflectors that have a different mounting base and bolt spacing as their rear tail lights. Perfect example in this picture. They could have saved money by making 1 base and 1 reflective lens. Just add a socket and a wire. But no they made the reflector a hair bigger so if we want to add tail lights to a tractor we have to drill another hole and have part of a hole showing!   

 

[pacer 3,174]

Theres usually a bunch of the 15A stators on the bay - for cheap ($15-20) I've changed out 3-4 of the 5A's just to get the better charging ability -- dont have much need for bright lights down here in La

[Snoopy11 5,714]

18 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said:

Those headlights need some eyelashes.

You're tempting me...

 

Don

[Jeff-C175 7,203]

27 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

tempting

 

I actually tried to photo shop them in, but my work 5ucked so bad I trashed it.