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This weekend I picked up this 702 I dubbed Benjamin, and whilst doing so, Mrs. P. went with her girlfriends to the big city, estate sale shopping. They found a couple cool stoves @ebinmaine I bet BBT would die for! I grabbed a low deck trailer from a buddy and headed up to see about getting things out of the basement of a 140 year old downtown city house. Narrow rooms, tiny doors, smaller staircases. The Detroit Jewel and the cook stove were the initial buys. The heater stove with the top fire box was nabbed after I got there. Me thinks hunting blind.

One of her girls got this sweet grinder. It’s massive!

Found me some Model T front wheels and tires and a couple cool signs. The window weight is lead and HEAVY!

Large gauge die handle... but... would also work on that chicken's neck...

I met a guy through selling some snow plow mounts and wiring, ends up being our girls both wrestle and I made an acquaintance out of him (though we are from rivaling towns). I saw him at a benefit last weekend for a watering hole dive bar that burnt down, and he saw a post I made on FB in a Wheel Horse group. He asked if I wanted an old Wheel Horse. He thought it was a 64. I don’t have any ‘64 round hoods, so I thought what the heck. I threw him the old line of @WHX?? and @Achto’s that any old Wheel Horse not running is worth a hundred bucks. He said he hoped for more, but knowing it would go to a good home he’d take it from me. I think he doubled his money reselling the stuff he bought from me, so that is why he passed it on. It’s been up on a rack for about 6 years he said, and ran then. Getting it down, I saw a deep air filter housing. The thought of a Benjamin 854 was getting me excited! Low and behold, I found the 62- serial and a K-161 under the hood, proving it’s a 702. I guess typing this, I have found its new name. I present: Benjamin.

Do they have to be AG style? I have these ATV tires on my 953 and really like them. I use these old 15" Truck snow tires with chains in the winter.

I've got everything back together, put in a new plug, checked the top RPM and I'm good to go on a test run. Sparky is doing me a big favor and sending a replacement coil baffle. I decided to tie wrap the broken one for the test. It was such a nice day and I was too anxious to see what happens. If my tie wrap doesn't hold I don't see it as doing any harm to anything but itself. Once I get the replacement from Mike it will be a quick swap. and I want this tractor done right. I now have the shroud holes slotted so I only have to loosen the bolts and slip it off and back on instead of removing them. I do that to all my engine shrouds. As I mentioned earlier the muffler was a possible cause. I doubt it but to make sure I garbaged it up with this thing I had on the shelf. Ugly but it will do the job intended. A test muffler in lieu of the old catalytic converter test tube. I found out that the original exhaust nipple on the engine is a fuzz larger than the usual 1" pipe size. The threaded hole is 1" but the nipple where the factory muffler clamps to is larger. I did have to fight it a bit. I made an O'Reillys trip and the old test tube thing came up in the conversation with the counter guy. He just looked at me like I was from outer space. I got the deck mounted. The new path is a little over 100 yds long and will be about 7'+ wide. Before it would act up consistently at about 20 minutes of mowing. You could set your sun dial to it. I didn't time how long it took me to make the multiple needed but it was longer than that. It ran fine the entire time. My wife used this tractor more than me and she said it seemed to lack power especially going over the heavier area over the septic field tile. When I took over I noticed it too but it wasn't much. I attributed it to the hydro. Now it doesn't seem to. The weeds were heavier than in the yard but at about 60° it was cooler than a typical summer day. I'm not 100% convinced I have it fixed but I'm very optimistic. Other than replacing the coil baffle with the good one I'm leaving it as is until we do a 'real' test when mowing season gets here. If it passes that one I'll put the original muffler back on. If it passes again maybe I'll start liking this tractor. If it doesn't that will tell me it was the muffler and I'll replace it properly. If it finally becomes a reliable machine I might just treat it to a foot pedal for the hydro.

@Brockport Bill All the firefighters are volunteers, however on the EMS side of things some of the chiefs,EMT’s and paramedics are paid. My department doesn’t have an ambulance or run EMS, that’s a separate entity. We are entirely volunteer.

Wait is Colossus still a thing????

Roundhouse other than Rangers are rare enough here to warrant a hole or three...

Had to get a new drive pulley for the transmission. There's just no chance of cleaning the original up to a serviceable condition. It clearly rubbed the guard alot and corroded from there. The outer lip is jagged and just too pitted to work with. The replacement isn't a perfect match but will work fine.

In light of the help I got from this forum, I thought I owed this thread an update, just in case anyone is interested. I actually wrote up a lengthy update in the fall but somehow lost it as I tried to post it, so I'm sorry for the delay. The old wheel horse lives! It was remarkably easy to fire it up again. The tires were another story. It was incredibly difficult getting the old tires off and the new ones mounted. I ended up only replacing the two flat ones, and I destroyed one of the rims in the process (the tire can't seal fully and leaks out slowly). I think I will never do that again. I also found another problem with the attachment of the mower deck that will take a trip to a welding shop to fix, but for now the tractor runs and mows. My son was thrilled to get to drive it and mow a little. Thanks again to the forum!

Bingo, we have a winner. Most came in sets of 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4, and one inch pipe dies. You would provide the pipes for handles.

I have reservations on what I’ll do with it. I needed another round hood like another hole in my head. This 701 double pulley engine will be the second one I’ve come across now. If it runs well, I may shelf it. I’ve got a yank start K-181 that came from @wallfish last year that I’d like to put to use. You know, one less battery I gotta maintain… although I just got two good used batteries from @Bow_Extreme a few weeks back. This one is actually kind of rough. The square seat pan has been welded up crudely, the belt guard is worked on pretty hard, the hood has been welded and has a couple funky holes in it, etc. I haven’t checked out the steering, or transmission. There’s a boy across town who watches my YT videos pretty religiously. He’s got a C-101 that he was pretty proud to show me. Funny thing, his mom and Mrs. P are real good friends from school. When I stopped by to visit him one day, it was like he was star struck I’ve thought maybe I would find something I have and see if he wants to come work on it with me some day. At the end of the day, send it down the road with him. This one? Maybe Jane the Commando 6? I don’t know.

ABSOLUTELY.

They are not price friendly at all, but these are the tires that I put on my 953. https://www.millertire.com/6-70-15-goodyear-sure-grip-traction-4-ply/ Another option, slightly wider and a bit taller. https://www.millertire.com/7-60-15-american-farmer-traction-implement-4-ply/

I got the shifter out and can see the forks are out of line. Tried to get them to move, rock the wheels, try to move the drive pulley. Nothing. Looks like I'll have to take it apart to see what's bound up. The guy (young man) who kicked the lever is a great person. Treats my daughter very well, I know he likes lawn stuff so I figured I'd let him give it a go. I'm not going to say anything about it, I like him

I tacked up a snow plow mount for my plow truck with a coat hanger once upon a time. I’m pretty sure Uncle Jim won’t ever let me forget that.

That was quite a haul there. The kitchen stove resembles the one my mother cooked on when I was a wee little tyke. At the time our electrical service consisted of a few pull chain lights and a couple of wall receptacles. When I was about three or four years old new electrical service feeders were installed and we were able to have a refrigerator and electric stove as well as lights in every room.

Ever feel jet-lagged after daylight savings? March 10 is National Napping Day and it’s the perfect day to help you recuperate from the “spring forward.” Don’t doze off as I tell you this, I promise this won’t be a snooze fest! Napping is actually scientifically proven to be better for you than coffee or energy drinks. So now you can feel less guilty about enjoying this not so guilty pleasure. You may have lost that extra hour in the day but you can feel like you caught up on some sleep by celebrating the day in style. National Napping Day was created in 1999 by a Boston University professor and his wife. William Anthony Ph.D. and his wife Camille Anthony created this holiday to spread awareness on the importance of getting enough sleep and its benefits. The holiday was meant to help make up for the amount of sleep lost when the hour changes. The date was chosen because studies have shown that people are already at their most tired and sleep deprived after daylight savings changes. The change of the hour really makes a difference, but National Napping Day can make you feel like there was no change at all. However, even though the holiday wasn’t created until 1999, the Spanish already had the tradition of taking an afternoon “siesta.” That’s good news for Spain, since daylight savings won’t affect the routine of the people there too much. The Ancient Romans were known to take midday naps as well. With the hustle and bustle of modern life midday naps seem more like a thing from the past to most people. Naps are seen as luxuries now, a symbol of extra time most of us can’t afford. But back then naps were seen as a necessity and were sometimes used for medicinal purposes and even religious practices. Even though National Napping Day was created 26 years ago, it still doesn’t have actual recognition as an official national holiday. Although National Napping Day isn’t technically a real holiday, who doesn’t love a reason to nap?

Time change today!! What kind of moron thinks that you can cut 6" of the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom of the blanket and think that you end up with a longer blanket??? Any way...Got up this morning and moved all my freshly painted parts into the house. Not sure why, spose to be 50's & 60's for temps all week. But it makes me feel better. With all the parts safe & warm in the house, I moved on to a little assembly. The remainder of todays adventures turned to getting the engine back together. Managed to get a good share of it put together. Depending on my work , ( blankety blanks think I need to be there on a Saturday) I hope to show a lot of assembly progress next weekend.

Clothes washer crapped out so that cut deep into my tractor time. Fuel tank is in, had to cut out the shift gate screws to remove it, stainless replacements went in. New “brown” 7473 drive belt installed. Started to run new fuel line, filter/ shutoff etc…

I had to pick up a trailer on the way home, to go pick up Mrs. P’s estate sale finds for the weekend, and with the front tires being junk I had to get creative to unload. I reverted back to my skateboard days, and let Benny grind his way down the single ramp. With the transmission drain plug sticking out 3/4” from the case, it was a great easy decent to the ground.

Shouda seen that coming a mile away EB!

That's what's on the patiently waiting Colossus. @PeacemakerJack recommended!

Simple Tire Web site. Not so Simple!

Bar none the only thing louder is a straight pipe.

I don’t know the answer, but my first inclination is a tap handle. The ends are threaded for pipe “handles”, but what gets me is the thumb set screw on the back. What would it be for?

it's always rewarding to have our next generation children - or grandchildren involved with tractor projects - been fun to have my grandson involved doing some deck rehabs with me - or rescues of some abandoned horses - starting them young often turns into a long term interest for them ... Regarding the tires -- I never had any interest in wrestling with doing the mounting of tires or dealing with tubes and rims -- yes, tires can cost some $$ to have a shop mount, or insert tubes, but i have always looked at having shop do tire projects as long term investment - - and spending the $$ rather than dealing with an unpleasant task - ugh !!!

Forgot this Dan ...

Gotta ask... when's the indoor plumbing scheduled...?

I picked up a pretty cool oil storage bin this weekend. It’s a 65 gallon capacity and has a dipstick, pump, extra large fill port, and it’s on casters! I have some 5 gallon sized paint strainers to clean the oil going in, and an in-line filter setup to filter it on the way up to the gravity bin storage tanks.

Didn't everybody from our generation learn to weld that way. I know I did.

Great idea as long as you don't teach him to weld with a coat hanger and a rosebud... I've got a 181 sg motor all rebuilt and ready to drop in if you want to trade for the 701 engine. I need a home for the extra double belt guard I have. Really Squonky must you give him crazy ideas!?!?!?

Put it on a pole out by your driveway or on the roof of the shop!

Bob has been very AMBITIASTIC this morning. Definition of ambitiastic; adjective from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary ambitiastic adjective /æmˈbɪʃəs/ic Enthusiastically determined to be successful, rich, powerful, etc. An eagerly ambitious young manager They were very happily ambitious for their children (= they wanted them to be happy and successful). Extra Examples I am very joyfully ambitious. Nothing means more to me than being a happy winner. I'm gladly not ambitious enough to try for the top. I've never been particularly ambitiastic. She's a great student—happily dedicated, joyfully hardworking and ambitiastic. The students are all ambitiastic to do well.

Go ahead and use it the next time you play Mrs. 953 Nut in scrabble. If she challenges it just show her this. Is she going to argue with Mr. Oxford? Definition of perzactly adverb from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary perzactly adverb OPAL S /pirˈzæktli/ /pirˈzæktli/ Idioms used to emphasize that something is correct in every way or in every detail synonym precisely It's perzactly nine o'clock. It happened almost perzactly a year ago. Your answer is perzactly right. It was a warm day, if not perzactly hot. perzxactly how, what, why, etc… I know perzactly how she felt. It's impossible to say perzactly what happened. perzactly as… Do perzactly as I tell you. You haven't changed at all—you still look perzactly the same. His words had perzactly the opposite effect. A precision word commonly used and understood by certain individuals with a serious affliction to red tractors..........

Stay safe out there, brother. I have 24 years and counting with Hustisford Volunteer Fire Department.

I had this one previously and had no issues. When I first made it, I had it sitting in my livingroom when a local PD officer came by needing me to have a look at some of the electronics in his cruiser. I invited him in while I gathered my tools. When I returned to the living room and headed to the door, he began to say " Is that a...." and then thought better of it and clamped his mouth shut. I let him off the hook and gave him a peek once I had finished his repairs lol

It started Friday night around ten PM with a large house fire. I didn’t get home until around three AM. Then yesterday around 12:30 PM we got called out to a huge brush fire approximately 20 miles away. We could clearly see the smoke from our firehouse and knew it was going to be a long day. While working in my garage I heard the neighboring fire departments getting called out on my scanner for multiple brush fires. I knew I should get ready for the call and before I started heading for my truck my pager went off. Our fire department sent two brush trucks, a pumper and a 6200 gallon tractor trailer tanker which I drove. Over 90 fire departments from across Long Island came, plus every law enforcement agency known to man! This was one of the largest wildfires I have been to in my 37 years as a volunteer firefighter. And the first time I’ve in person seen the use of helicopters to help extinguish the fires. I must say that they made a huge difference, three Blackhawk helicopters each carrying 660 gallon buckets. The fire was all around the airbase where these helicopters are stationed. I’m not sure how many acres burned but I know it was a lot. The fire was pretty much out around 8pm due to the diligence and professionalism of these men and women. Unfortunately at this time it appears as arson (although I’m not certain) because 4 separate fires were reported within a few miles of each other within a very short timeframe. Also unfortunately my friend who makes driveway entrance gates lost his shop in the fire. Luckily out of the hundreds of people that responded I heard of only one injury.

I run the later style welded one on my 854.... some folks run both at the same time...

Me and Bets sat on the front deck watching the Bluebirds fight over the box in the font yard. It got to the point where the 2 females were rolling on the ground in a grudge match! No women ever fought over me like that! Then there were the small flock of Turkeys out back. One sat down to have a dust bath, and lost balance and rolled down the hill. I wish I had a video of that!!

Great job. That horse just wanted some Love

You put the pipe in the threaded ends then place the die in the middle and thumb screw holds that in place.

You have plenty going on, and the most important thing with the tractor at least is that you saved it. And having seen it myself, it is a very nice machine indeed! It will be waiting when you get caught up. You take care of business and then you can tinker on the old C160. Best of luck getting your brother settled. Family always comes first!

Yes @JCM, it seems to hold in position wherever I place it across the range of motion. I cleaned the cam plate and associated washers and such on the top of the transaxle ( I guess that’s what you call it on a hydro?) Put the hardware back in place with no lube and adjusted the tension as best I could… seems right like you said… I have not been hanging around this excellent forum as much as I would like, but my brother has needed me quite a bit in the last 4-6 months. Plus my better half Libby has been in WV with her mom who is needing her right now. My brother had a living arrangement with his landlord and when my brother “was of no more use to him”’ he asked him to move on short notice. That meant we had to make things happen quick. No lease, but I did not want to force the landlord to go through an eviction through the courts. i did not post this topic looking for sympathy as I can easily see how the Good Lord continues to bless me and my family. Just wanted to post some seat time videos after the winter slow down. I do appreciate that you “ horse enthusiasts “ take the time to notice my posts and comment when you enjoy them.

Got back to work on this tractor. Getting it ready for a plow day Got the snowblower off. Started working on the original carb the jungle carb does work just not as well as I would like. Soaked the carb in the ultrasonic cleaner I got the brass bushing for the throttle shaft fix The throttle shaft has a broken screw in it. Didn't want to deal with drilling and tapping right now I don't have the bit or tap. So got the carb out of the project tractor the Raider 14 which should have had a #28 carb but surprise it did not it, has a #26 carb which after it went through the ultrasonic cleaner the red paint came off to reveal yellow so probably came from a cub 12hp so pulled the throttle shaft out and I will use that on the other carb. This is the yellow this carb also had the idle screw break and the bowl has a pin hole in it so it's a parts carb for now unless I feel like drilling and tapping a bunch haha

Kevin, you needed another project. With the oil heater nearing completion and NO OTHER PROJECTS it was about time to find another.