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Watched this 14yo make a perfect 3 pt turn ....all day with his 5Horse hitch.

Bates Steel Mule Many early tractors were a bit strange looking by today’s standards and the Bates Steel Mule was no exception. The Steel Mule Tractor was designed at the dawn of the industrial age and tractors were designed to pull any horse-drawn implement the farmer owned. In 1913 the Joliet Oil Tractor Company began production of their first tractor, The Steel Mule. The tractor was powered by a four-cylinder 13-30 gasoline engine coupled to a transmission with two forward speeds and one reverse. Sounds rather conventional so far, but rather than driving large steel wheels the Steel Mule had a single centered crawler track at the rear to move the tractor and two front wheels for steering and stability. One very unconventional but useful feature was the front wheels that could be adjusted up or down to keep the tractor level while working on a hillside. The driver could sit on the installed seat or utilize the telescopic steering shaft to operate the “Mule” from the seat of the implement being towed. Steel Mules were exported to England and Ireland by 1916 priced at £500, ($ 36,740 in US dollars today) and were shown at the Highland & Agricultural Society of Scotland's tractor trials in October 1917 A half-century later a somewhat similar propulsion design was used on the 1953 Endless Tread Garden Tractor. In 1919 the Bates Machine & Tractor Company introduced a more conventional half-track design known as the Model D with two rear tracks, it sold for $ 1,500. Three different engine manufacturers were used, Midwest Engine from 1921 to 1925; Beaver Engine from 1926 to 1928; and LeRoi engine was used from 1929 to 1937. Bates also produced a kit to convert a Fordson tractor to a half-track tractor to increase traction and reduce soil compaction.

Spent yesterday afternoon and evening laying some red paint, always an exciting day! This is the 702 project I've been helping a friend with. There's been a lot of sheetmetal work In this, but seeing the outcome makes it all worth it

Fellow members, I caution you on equating “Chinese” with poor quality. This can lead to misjudging, and underestimating, both products and a people. Engineers and manufacturers in that country have designed and built spacecraft, nuclear weapons, supercomputers, telephony equipment, and some of the best drones in the world. There are superb software engineers working in China. Further, those same engineers and manufacturers have figured out how to lower the specs and tweak the manufacturing processes on many things to where they can be made at lower cost and sold to buyers all over the world eager to get them. These products often serve adequately for their function. It is WE, the consumers, that have been driving this by seeking to constantly have more for less. We have been getting (and will continue to get) what we are willing to pay for.

But that's not the secret I want to share. I placed a sandwich bag over the JB Weld to get the shape of the original fan shroud. It's suprisingly easy to do it by feel . Your finger can discern what is a low spot and fill it in.JB really makes good body filler for tiny spits like this and also repairs the split metal. Sorry I don't have the original hole but it took quite a few shrink sessions with a body hammer to close it up. Of course the secret sauce is the sandwich bag which allows you to finger tool the JB and keep it from sagging out if place.

This afternoon I got the new Carlisle's mounted on the 854, I'm really happy with this tire choice, now to give the fronts a sandblast and paint.

When it's all finished, apply one of those bullet hole decals over it.

You'll want to take a very close careful look at your own carb body to verify that the BOTTOM of the shaft is tight before attempting repair. I'm finding that the Magnum engines have a Walbro carb that's prone to wearing the body at the top AND bottom. The bottom bore isn't repairable without specialized machinery. When you remove the throttle shaft blade screws be VERY careful. You'll most likely need to grind a small amount off the back of the screw where it sticks past the shaft. Many of these screws are staked in. Many are in using loctite. Almost all break if you don't grind the back. Certainly try the tighten/ loosen/ tighten/ loosen/ tighten/ loosen/ method too. The part numbers are: Carb copper washers: Mcmaster Carr # 5906K561 Or Hillman 58087 They aren't on isave because he wants to sell you a new aftermarket cheap carb rather than repair your own original. I can no longer advise his carbs after having a couple wear out prematurely.

The Chinese can build world class products. They just don't ship them here. It would be a mistake to judge their capability based on the junk you see at stores for cheap.

Oil attracts dirt and dust. Gets on your hands and clothes. Wipe or brush this on instead. Available at home Depot and Lowes

An 18 Vanguard in a C-120, and a 16 Vanguard in a 312-8. The back side of the PTO hole is the center line of the crank shaft. I raised the engine mount plate 3/4".

I graduated high school from Lathrop, a small town in northwest Missouri about 40 miles north of Kansas CIty. "In the early 1900's Lathrop was know as the mule capital of the world and became the largest mule dealership in the world. During the Boer War in 1901-02, approximately 170,000 mules where handled by Guyton and Harrington. Almost all of these mules where shipped from the Lathrop location over seas to their final destination in South Africa. By 1918, they had 18 buildings on 4,700 acres of land with 150 men maintaining up to 50,000 mules." (Inside the quotes are various parts of articles found on the internet that I copied from.) I gave the history because part of the Guyton Harrington farm structures were still present in the 1970's and 80's and I was hired to do repairs to some of them. One of them was a huge round cement water tank that was filled using a windmill. One of my jobs was to make and install a wooden oak "connecting rod" when it broke between the windmill on top and the pump on ground. That was a pretty easy job. One time the owners ask me to make a lid for the water tank. In places, the cement was flaking off the sides of the tank exposing the rebar inside. The original lid which was probably 30" square was missing. Up the side of the water tank was a wooden ladder. I made a cover, then me and my helper proceeded to climb the ladder hefting the lid. I suppose the tank was 25 to 30 (probably more) feet high. We were absolutely wore out getting the lid up there and had to stop more than once to rest. We rested a corner of the lid on a 1x4 rung with me above and my helper below. Once on the top all we laid the lid over the access hole. The owners asked me to inspect the cement top of this tank that is (very conservatively estimated sitting here in my recliner) to be 25 feet across . The cement lid had several holes in it where the rebar had rusted and the old cement deteriorated and fell inside--to the point that there was NO WAY I was going to get on top of that thing! That was one of the scarier projects I did. That tank supplied the water to the Guyton Harrington farm and I was told water lines were laid to watering troughs scattered around the farm. The last time I passed the farm, someone with equipment that I could only dream of having access to had built a roof over the water tank.

Old trick. Used to use wax paper

Yep.

The Steel Mule abit ahead of times ya think?

I did one for my son a few years ago Excellent choice. Had one on an FEL also Homemade muffler on this one.

I think we need a "wheel horse" dictionary...

This.... is a rear tire/wheel combo. This.... is also a rear tire/wheel combo. These....are front tire/wheel combos. All four are now filled with Rimguard. There were some trials and tribulations involved with the pumperizing system. All good. The to-do list is gettin' shorter!!

@Pullstart hey Kev there is the left hand right hand plow thing we talked about

He drives better than @squonk !!!!!!!

I really don't want to do business with the Chinese.

We used a small non submersible pump I purchased at Harbor Freight for about $65. Because of the tiny orifice that the fluid has to pass through going into the tube, this pump was no faster than using a drill mounted pump. We will use it for other things around the yard from time to time so I don't feel like it was a waste of money but it certainly did not speed the process up any like I was hoping. I would LIKE to attain as close to 100% fill with these tires as I can. I think we are probably no more than 70%, 80%. I've read that having a tire at 100% with a heavier tractor could be dangerous in that, if you go over rough ground the fluid needs to push out somewhere as it's being pushed up on the bottom. I don't see that being a serious issue for us in particular.

I've certainly been on both sides of that coin. Definitely a Life Lesson worth remembering.

I will have some rim guard left from the retiring of my Farmall M. How are you filling your small tires. Some say for tubeless break the bead on one side and pour in the recommended amnount ...not sure how easy it would be to reseat the bead. How are you pumping it into tubed tires?? Also I think you have indicated you completely fill the tire. Rim guard indicates about 80% fill keeps eh valve stem above the fill line at 12 o'clock.

I did one a few years ago in a 416-8. I used an engine plate from a gt1100 which adapted the engine bolt pattern and gave the correct crankshaft height. Used a engine pulley from a c-85 which had a 1" crank, an easy swap that you'll be very pleased with!

@kpinnc @Lee1977 @davem1111

Last year I replaced both #21 and #32 as part of my work to add dual front remotes to a 520 chassis. #21 (which runs from the pump to the control valve) is the only line that will see any significant pressure; #32 runs to the filter and transaxle “tank”. @JoeM is on the money with doing replacements. Metal is better and there isn’t a lot of room anywhere! I used the new alloy brake line which is very easy to form, uses a regular tubing flare tool and won’t rust. Per its specs, working max pressure is 900psi, well under the 700. JIC connectors worked fine. I was a bit leery of tightening the connections, so I ran it and tightened until it stopped leaking and then gave it another 1/8th of a turn. Some advice I followed from an “old hand” at hydraulics was to make sure there are no rubbing edges against the tubing and to support it every 10-12 inches to prevent vibration that can weaken/break a connection. You have flaring experience so a quick practice will get you dialed in on how much you need to extend beyond the tool to get the right length of flare. Good luck!

The simplest thing you can do is to take the cover off of the points and clean the contacts. Letting an engine sit can cause the points to oxidize. Until cleaned, it won't start.

Spring Cleanup Seat time!

Worked on several Wheel Horses today. I took my snowplow off the 854. Touched up some bare spots on the plow frame with new paint. Took off my steering wheel on the 854 ( easy I have a pin in it) and painted a bare spot on the gas tank top. Took the snowplow off the RJ and stored. Put some Fix a Flat in my 314 toro front tire. Seal around the rim leaking air. Cleaned out my spreader and did two applications today. Grubbed for the lawn and Scott’s Weed and Feed. Pretty quick work with the spreader I have. Checked out the HY belt guard that Mark Godzig made me (traded a three race pulley). I have one but also have another hydraulic system to install on a round hood tractor that it will be used for. Also primed and painted the belt guard. Fits great and Mark did a great job making this from measurements I sent him. Also primed a heavy duty RJ snowplow frame I got from Rodney Burger in Florida last month. Whoever made this didn’t want it bending!

Good meal to finish to the day. A nice ribeye grilled to a perfect medium moo, smothered in sauteed mushrooms, with a side of steak fries & south west corn. Tomorrow it's back to cheap hot dogs, Kraft mac & cheese, or Ramen noodles.

I spent the day sandblasting and painting wheels for the new 854 I picked up a few weeks back. Couldn't take the 23x8 50x12 tires that came on it so I bought a new set of Carlisle Tru power 6-12 tires for it. Hopefully it looks good with new shoes

A week of 50F temps and an inch of rain yesterday = a roll down the frost lumps day. Put the "new" $175 310-8 to work for the first time. He did good, but could use a couple new sneakers and some weight on his rear. I'm a hydro guy, but the gear drive was OK for this job. It ran for 2 hours non-stop in H2nd. I only had to push the clutch one time to back it in the shed.

So here as you can see the hole closed up nicely. It hit at a bad spot close to where the captured threaded nut is on the cowling

I will not knowingly buy a product that has been produced with child or slave labor. And many of the products from China are made by such people.

Japan had a reputation for producing junk many years ago, but they made a sincere effort to clean up their act. China now has a well deserved reputation of making junk, unless they follow Japans example, I will have little respect for their products. We didn't cause the problem and only they can correct it.

The paint on this tractor was pretty much shot. I wish I got a "Before pic " 1 coat of Penetrol. You can rest your hand on it and shoot the breeze and not get all slimy. Skip the oil!

@23 Reo DON THIS ON MINE , very easy , of course if the paint is totally shot dull rusty fade , oiled patina is an option , pete

Ahh I see. Ok awesome 👍

You stack two inside that top hole.

So, raise the engine 3/4" and space the pulley out 3/16", that's not terrible

Those butterfly screws look awfully shiny. Are they steel? Best to use brass screws in case one comes loose and is injested. Brass will crush down and likely won't damage anything. Steels screws will bust the head or piston. Brass screws and red loctite are far less likely to break anything...

Also if you are getting spark and fuel, make sure there is no water in the gas.

I can’t believe we are knocking on months from driver’s training for my youngest! August (July 29 actually) will mark eligibility for taking classes and getting behind the wheel. My kids have grown up driving, getting dirty, failing and excelling. No surprise there, with their father learning to wrench on Christmas toys long before they were played with, and their mother following in the footsteps of their grandfather, Adam Petty’s ASA teammate and 1994 ASA Rookie of the Year recipient. This 1992 Chevy Short Box C1500 toted Mrs. P’s Hobby Stock circle track dirt car to every race she could afford to get to, when she wasn’t penciled in for a swim meet in high school. It was a 4.3L Automatic bare bones 2wd work truck, no A/C, no power windows, just a good ole’ first set of wheels. It was passed back to her dad, and long before I was involved with this side of my family, it’s been sitting victim of high miles, hard work, and a ventilated V6 block. When we were dating, I pulled a donor engine from a junk yard and wheelbarrow toted that hefty thing about 300 yards to the register. @Lil’ Pullstart’s Great, Great Uncle Steve is a well known hot rodder in the area. He took the engine down to his shop, had it bored .030” over, rebuilt it with all new pistons, cam, timing set, bearings, valve, the whole ball of wax. It’s been on a stand waiting for this project for over 15 years, maybe 17 or so if I can count and recall dates correctly. About a year or two ago, we were camping at Grandpa’s house and Rylee started having a conversation with him about buying the truck back. It has been pushed from the yard, to the barn, filled with stuff, pushed out, pushed around, leaned on a time or two, etc. They settled on $300 as is, with the engine. I picked the engine up about a year ago. Her truck has been loaded on Grandpa’s ramp truck with a dead battery and flat on the bottom tires for even longer. Last weekend, we went over, popped some 5 on 5” wheels and tires from a race car on the back, pushed it off the ramp truck and tugged it home. I have a 5 speed manual swap to go into it, thanks to a local CL ad for the transmission and Tony Angelo from Motor Trend’s Hot Rod Garage and now his own show Stay Tuned. Since anything in the engine bay that is plastic or rubber has been cooking in the sun for a few years with no hood, I am thinking a lot of electronics will go away in favor of a nice carburetor, and an HEI ignition. I have a 2000 K3500 (5.7L 4x4) parts truck for the things like grille and headlights, washer and coolant tanks, any interior parts needed, I found a clean front bumper in my stash, and some things will be needed like good tires, brakes, etc, and we will search for those. There are more parts still at Grandpa’s like the hood, motor mounts, radiator, etc, but it’s nice the truck is home.

Before worrying about a "blown engine" do a step by step check of spark and fuel. I would start with making sure you have a good spark at the spark plug. You can lay the plug on the head and turn the engine over to see if there is spark. If not replace the plug and if still no spark check the points. May need to replace points and condenser. Once you determine you have spark start working through the fuel supply. Is the gas cap venting air ok? you can pull the gas line off the carb coming from the fuel pump. Is it pumping fuel from the pump when you turn the engine over? If not you may have a plugged gas cap, plugged fuel filter or a bad fuel pump (would need a rebuild or replace). If you have spark and fuel to the carb then I would assume its something plugging the carb and would need a good cleaning. That is just my but I am sure others here will chime in on suggestions. Best of luck!

Have a Great Day Dan

I have been working on this since last year with a failed attempt because of cheap over the big pond rebuild kit. Want to give BIG thanks to @Docwheelhorse. For picking up this engine for me in January. It was a partial 856. Yes it has been that long. I had to switch over parts from the bad engine to this one witch is a vacuum engine being my first. Been a long good day out side in the sun. I hope you enjoy the picks and one Video. IMG_1467.mov

1739 was replaced by 101147 and it is no longer available from Toro. This link should take you to parts lists that show the muffler. Looks like a common model still available from aftermarket suppliers. One needs to know the pipe thread size to get the correct one. https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro-101147

I'm using one on my 314-8 (K321). I had a run of the mill old piece of black steel pipe in the corner of the shop that threaded into the engine. I believe it was 1" NPT. I cut it to length, slipped the muffler over, and clamped'r down. I do recall that it seemed a little loose at first test fit, but clamped down just fine with no leaks. Its quieter than the stock muffler I had. I ended up going that way because I was having belt clearance issues between the stock muffler and my wood chipper that runs off the PTO.