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Kicking this idea around. 7x16 cargo trailer. Prices have eased a little. I need a bigger trailer, could use some more storage too. Keep the nicer ones in there. Permitting here for building is now a nightmare. Anyone got any brand advice? This is a US Cargo at a local dealer. Asking $8400 (after stopping at Wendy's, on the way home from the show, and getting 3 hamburgs a fri and two cokes for $27...... not filling it is too bad a price)

Hello, my name is Henry, I also go by Hank. I recently bought my first wheel horse. I bought a wheel horse 604. I found this forum a while back and I thought since I got a wheel horse this would be a great place learn about different wheel horses. I live in Middleville, MI and I enjoy working on cars and tractors and also driving tractors. I also have a Panzer t70 that I've been working on.

I did not take as many as normal as I did not venture out from under the canopy as much as normal! But here are 102 pictures! IMG_4552.MOV

Looks like Turd Tank Thursday to me.

We all eventually get to the point where we need a crane to lift the tractor crane into place...

It’ll be tough, and they won’t be cheap. I think a few small Sears ride on tractors from the 60’s used them on the rear. Keep your eyes out for one of those machines on the cheap.

For now, I found another H60 Tecky on the shelf that had good spark and Henry swapped that on. It acted like it was running out of fuel on occasion. The carb sat in the Berryman carb dip for a day or so and looks really good. We’ll have to see how it runs in the meantime while we prep the M8.

For those of you wondering, this is my 604. Me and @Pullstart took the plow off and changed the left rear tire to an ag tire. I blew a rod during cruise night, so we are planning on putting a Kohler Magnum 8 in it.

They say my area, it’s like smoking a pack of cigarettes a day. I’ve never done that before. The haze weird, I keep thinking it looks like it’s raining in the distance. I’m sad for the ones with stuff burning, but I’m an advocate for small regular controlled burns, to prevent this type of uncontrollable havoc.

It looks like your black wire it where it goes. The yellow goes to ground.

I've towed with surge brakes mostly on boat trailers but also a couple cargo trailers. Boat trailers are generally very stable. Cargo trailers are usually stable but improper loading can make them a beast as can wind blasts from big trucks. You get used to the surge and can feel it and keep the trailer brakes applied with lighter tow vehicle braking. I much prefer the adjustable control that electric brakes provide. A BIG plus with electric is that if a trailer does start to sway simply manually apply the trailer brakes only and it will usually almost snap you straight. Some years back I was pulling a 30' travel trailer and a mechanical issue suddenly put it into beast mode at highway speeds. Not only did I manually apply the electrics I feathered the throttle. Basically I was giving all the opposite forces from the truck and trailer that I could. I didn't totally back off the throttle until we were nearly stopped. It wasn't funny at the time but later I got some laughs because my wife was screaming to get my foot off the gas.

@ineedanother another very obvious problem only gets worse , is the side play in the front wheels , that side to side shucking , slamming , is easily helped with added washers , and better grease . thats what also causes those wheel hubs to get blown out with oversize bearing mount . very easy to washer up that wheel / bearing , sloppy area . use a regular wide washer , for inital gap fill in , hard ware store has much thinner washers , for final fill in fit . also like a vinyl bearing cap on that , they stay on , look just right . experiment , pete

A couple 520 wheels and a booster seat, then @rjg854 would be able to see over your head!

After seeing all the tub carts at the WHS I decided to dig mine outa storage, clean up the inside/bottom and slap a bit of paint on it. My next tractor/machinery show is only 2 weeks away! The inside bottom was rusty but not rusted through, the rest of it was solid. Wire wheeled and sanded the rusty bottom. Then painted just the bottom, well that looked horrible so I sanded the entire inside and painted it all matte red. Not entirely happy with it so I shot the entire inside and the top rails with clear bedliner type spray. Not perfect but I didn’t want perfect (if you’ve seen the tractors that’ll be pulling it you understand ) It’s not thick like Line-X, but it is textured. The plan is to bring it to shows and use it like a trailer.

My Pullstart moment with a Toro cart. Canopy, 3 chairs and a cooler

Hey Henry, I have a pretty sweet 604 in my shop right now. If you ever need help on yours, just let me know

Hemlock never hurt anybody. Well, unless you count Socrates…😎 Steve (yes, I realize it’s a different Hemlock but how often does a guy get to work in a Socrates joke?)

Well, back from work with the fires up in Canada, so I am getting started with some little restoration work on some of my implements… when I purchased the tractor about eight years ago or so… Maybe 12 years ago, it had a mower deck that went with it that sat in the shed and I’m finally getting it all apart and getting rid of the rust and prepping it for a nice coat of paint. All of the bearings on the blades turn beautifully once I remove the belt and so forth. The wire wheel took off the surface patina and has exposed the paint underneath, which is still clinging well to the metal, but it will need fresh coat of paint. Wire wheel and wet sanding really smoothed it out nice. I’ve always wanted to get this mower going! I custom built this box scraper when I first got the tractor, and it works amazing… but it too had a real faded paint from sitting outside all the time for the last six years. Jason

Hmmm, apparently that newly painted trailer you just did is a TRAILER QUEEN trailer Can't wait to load some anvils and engines in it at Zags in a couple weeks! Those septic guys must love you!

A day early for front end Friday… but all prepped for a morning pump-out

Had to move a few horses to get the crabbing boat out. So, I hosed everything off.

to the forum from a fellow Michigander.

And baby-buggy wheels

And the cokes are even free for us old people.

Really can't comment on the brand as I am unfamiliar with them. Having been looking on and off for a trailer for a couple years or more I will say this: Actual measurements very in comparison to published measurements. CHECK YOUR ACTUAL MEASUREMENT BEFORE PURCHASE. I also add to very carefully consider going 8 ft wide if the price difference is not too bad.

I took the plow off the 520 and installed the Ber Vac blower tht I dragged home from the show. I had to make an adapter to get the lift points to line up. The two lift assist springs were so strong, the blower was floating, so I took one off. Works good now. Now to take it back off and repaint.

Dad has a 310-8 he bought new in '88, along with the mower, a snow blade and a trailer. I've tried to steal it but he's 11 steps ahead of me so I'm buying my own hopefully very soon!

I watched it last night. It’s very cool to see it all from the air. Great video.

We have pretty much escaped it here in central MA. One day last week was a little hazy from it but that's about it so far.

Praying you get well soon Richard

Steve, I did not realize that you were so good with a camera! You captured a lot of great images and well centered too. Wild Bill in Richmond VA

Who ever has contact to him, please sent him best convalescent wishes over the Big Pond. Hope he is better now. Again Prayers sent !

Yep, you ground the wire out to kill the ignition on those.

Likely I would get a strap type boat winch but I suggested above I would have to have an attachment point for it. I like the idea of welding a short stand just forward of the cargo deck.

Same here in SE Michigan... Come on Southwesterly's...

So you beat me to those and they were in my own back yard!! lol

Yep all great points i got to make sure the interior will fit two WH’s side by side comfortably! Yearly inspection here too. my truck can pull 11000 I’m good on the GVW size electric brakes for sure. surge brakes seem more popular on boat trailers ?? I have a 6x12 utility now towed three machines to the show 17mpg not bad for gas. Figure the wind on a cargo trailer will knock that down a bit. same here on used vs new not much savings on used and if they are cheaper they are usually beat up

Surge brakes are a different animal - a self contained hydraulic system, most likely drum brakes. A device in the trailer tongue activates them - as the tow car slows, force is applied to the gizmo aft of the ball. The slower the car goes during it's braking, the more force the trailer applies to the gizmo, the more the trailer applies its brakes. Simple, sweet?? NO An out of control trailer swerving decreases th brake pressure, goes to nothing when the trailer spins you around and passes you.... not good. Now you are trying to control the vehicle and a trailer attached with NO brakes...

Same here weather enclosed or not. I had pretty much made up my mind to stop looking for a pre-owned trailer and just by a new one when the time was right. Only reason I found the one we just picked up is because I drive by where it was for sale everyday. New trailer will offer a warranty that a used one just can't. New trailer is likely to have tires that are less than a year old. For a little extra money I would go new every time.

Assuming you already have (or have budgeted for) a suitable tow vehicle, I think of trailer buying as a “backward” exercise. What will I carry? How far? What does it weigh? Does the cargo need protection? Where will I store the trailer (some places ban long-term parking of utility vehicles; some neighbors might complain)? What will be the effect on operating costs like licensing, inspections, maintenance, insurance, and fuel usage?

Glad to have you with us, Henry. (And it was a pleasure chatting at the Show!)

Found it!

Found the problem it was the role pin on one of the forks it was back out haft way fox it now it works good thanks for the help y'all

With the rain, and the fact that I was busy all the time, I didn't get many pictures. Thanks to my grandson Mason for being my right-hand man at the show. And thanks to everyone who came by to help make this one of the most successful selling shows for me in 13 years.

A few duplicates from my other post but what the heck…

To you Kollin since you are still very young and impressionable ,Richard not only is kind but he is also extremely wise as evidenced in countless comments he has made over the years referring to many different subjects not always relating to tractors or machinery . Comments such as “ when they try to keep you out, you draw them in” have a lot of meaning and good advice if you allow yourself to read ,think about, and understand them. You will learn a lot from the individuals in here like Richard ,tractors probably being the subject of least importance . It is people like that that will make a lasting impression in your life which will benefit you and you can pass on to others. Great of you to recognize good when you see it. Take advantage of it and always let them know that their words were not wasted.

I wondered why I got dizzy. I thunk it was the heat