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Some of you may have already seen this tractor in another post but I wanted to make a formal introduction and ask some questions. As of last Sunday this little 401 ( serial number 43787 ) has joined my family of Horses. The good - engine runs like a top and the tractor seems to be pretty compete. I know the lift handle is not in the picture but it was included in the purchase. The bad - it jumps out of 3rd and the axle seals are leaking and the right hub is a bit loose. So the tranny will need some attention. Included with the tractor was a good solid deck that turns freely. Also included was this disc, This leads me to my first question. Can any one identify this disc?? I don't think that it is but it is still cool. Specially like the wooden bearings. Now for some tractor questions. First off @oliver2-44 mentioned that some of the early '61 models used left over '60 serial number tags. They cut the lower section of the '60 tags off and bolted the remainder to the '61 tractors. This does make sense given the fact that you can make out part of the "C" on the bottom left corner where the word "CHOKE" would be on a '60 model. Other '61 models that I have seen have a decal on the frame for the serial number. Any other confirmation on this serial number tag usage?? The knowledge stated above makes me wonder if also used up the '60 foot rests on the early '61 models. This tractor has a '61 brake peddle but it also has the diamond plate foot rests instead of the cast foot rests that I'm used to seeing on the '61 models. Any thoughts, comments or knowledge on this??

The Local Craft Department has been at it again. Trina made up a couple beautiful pieces over the last few days. For scale the envelope in the pics is 11½ x 9. The first is a sign for the new shop building. The wood is a piece of hemlock she very carefully free-hand sliced off the top of a laying tree with her battery powered chainsaw. It's about a ½" thick on the heavier side. The bear and letters are traced stencil drawings. The coloring is all wood burning with various tips for effects. There's a hanging wire on the back that's offset to account for balance and level set on the wall. This next one is just. .... Well the pics don't do it justice by a large margin. Our friend's birthday was 11/8. Trina wanted to make something special and very useful. This friend very much enjoys scale modeling so Trina made a brush and supplies holder. This friend has a very special attachment to a particular mountain we've shared in our vacation pics. It'll look familiar to some of you. The large brown bump in the middle is Big Spencer Mountain. The pond in the foreground is in several of Trina's pics as well. The small brown bump on the right of the drawn part is Little Spencer Mountain. Here is the how it's done section. This is a hemlock tree base Trina chose for size and shape and cut down. It's maybe 3" across the top face L to R. The area above the red line she carefully shaved the bark to bare wood. The area between the two lines is the inner bark. The area below the blue one is of course still fully covered with bark. She then HAND DREW the mountains and pond using colored pencil and wood burning. All the holes are hand controlled drilling (no drill press). Sizing was done on a "bout right" scale. Both above pieces are soaked in preservatives. @formariz Caz I know you'll really like these and I'm sure many others as well.

In Navarre Florida for a long weekend with the wife…gotta represent the brand. Fairly certain nobody around here has a WH ..

I bought this property about 5 years ago now, from my in laws. Honestly, the time is running together and I am not 100% positive on that. Might be working on 6! This Allis Chalmers CA was given to my brother in law by a close family friend a long, long time ago. I’ve ruled over it since moving here, yet it has just been a grapevine home. I’ve had feelers out now for a while, maybe a year, looking for a machine to get a brush hog for, or pull a bigger plow, etc. the WD45 is powerful, but has no traction. Cleaning up the place a bit lately, I uncovered this from the vines once again and today just asked my BIL what he’s going to do with it. Well, it’s mine now, so long as it stays in the family and I don’t sell it. It has the aftermarket 3 point system, which I may end up swapping onto the WD45 but first it’ll need a real good transmission soaking. The shift rails are stuck to all forward gears, I can only access reverse. The engine oil looks full and fresh at least! My plan, once I get the pool and camper winterized and put away, is to get it INSIDE where it belongs, drain out whatever is inside the transmission, then get it soaking with any oil yep fluids I can find. I have a couple pallets of used oil and I won’t even mind just filling it up to set for the winter. I’ve filled engines to sit for a year and got them to break free, why not an old transmission to start?

I am starting this topic about A-Z Tractor setting up a new website. We are setting up a new website and it should be up and going in a couple of weeks. This site is to be more user friendly and should be easier to find the parts you are looking for. Also there is going to be pictures added as time goes on of the parts we have listed. When the site is up and ready for full use I will try to remember to post it here. The web address is the same a-ztractor.com and you can go to the site now and take a look at it but it is still under construction and at the moment you can't purchase anything on the site.

Don’t know if they were headed for the scrap pile, but they were definitely in need of some love… I saved 2 so far… My 1984 Work Horse GT-1600, and my 1994 520H…

Wood bearings were not that uncommon. A lot of rotating shafts on threshing machines ran on wood bearings. A good hard wood and good lubrication maintenance made them last a long time.

Just for all you customers here at red square. A-Z Tractor is changing websites to a more user friendly site but this is taking some time. Feel free to check out the new site but it is not open to purchase items at this time but should be here in the near future. As always we are open Monday through Friday 8-5 you can call 1-717-821-2542 or email us at aztractor255@gmail.com. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused or inconvenience. Lincoln

I probably saved 14 or 15 from the scrap pile. Some are running today and some were parted out to keep others running.

25,000 members plus... I'm thinking at least 50,000 saved given the "collections" of some members...

I think that tractor is the cats meow... patina and more important character that won't quit!. Aside of the mechanicals which is child's play for Dan. I wouldn't touch a thing. Maybe bring out some of the orginal with some 1500 grit but then linseed. I dunno six dozen different ways you could go. Obviously someone along the years tried to give it some paint but spared the original decals. I think that adds to character. Good catch on the top of the C/ choke Dan ... nails down @oliver2-44 as far as I'm concerned. The footrests ?? I dunno but Dan thinks they should be the coffin style ala 701and others but the patina say possibly orginal? Left overs perhaps? Something found in a warehouse the Ponds said use it? Fun to speculate anyway. Yeah I know you might want to do a full blown resto but ain't you the one who told me all my tractors look the same?? Shiney red? Frame off mechanical and that's it for me.

Mrs. Zeek taking it for a spin 20221106_115827.mp4

Sorry early Am question. If any you on this forum would like to take a guest on this thought. Being this forum is large with lots of members how many tractors where save from scrap. I am thinking from 50 to the 70`s? early 80`s. I know all of you do your part in finding these and saving them. Or just tell to shut up and drink my coffee in peace.

Worked them ... used the FEL to grub out some unruly lilacs. Then just to heat up a tecky got out the 502 and used the plow to move dirt around. I forget about that float function on the FEL @Achto! Is handy.

According to the Corps, this date is now your birthday if your a Jar Head you know what I am taking about. Happy Birthday Marines. Semper Fi

I just called and talked to the fella that works for Lincoln. He said they're changing websites and he's not sure if the new one is up and running. I've written it before and I'll say it again. Always always CALL LINCOLN. I stopped using the website several years ago because I had difficulty getting through or finding numbers or checking active inventory or any number of other reasons. Here's the phone number I just now used and it's definitely working. (717) 821-2542 A to Z Tractor

I plan on a different load for each show this year. Never gonna know what goes on the trailer until the last minute.

I have two options for front tires on the RJ I am finishing up on. I now have a set of 3.50 Deestone tri-ribs and they look good. I think the 3.50s look better on the smaller tractor than the 4.00 tri-ribs and they fit fine on the same wheels. My other option is a set of new old stock Goodyears I bought that are much like early Wheel Horse equipment. I may just have to try them both out! plus I am using this Rubber Care product Craig Hearne mentioned to me last year. This softens old tire rubber and reconditions for continued use.

Depends on the tractor, or your fab skills. Some, but not many tractors had options for Cat 0 three points. Or you can make one. Most any of these tractors can handle a three point, though I'd recommend some additional bracing depending on how much weight you plan to lift. The example brace below isn't mine, but is a very good idea. I made one for my Bronco, and others have been built by members here as well. A clevis hitch can be used for most any Brinly implement, and they are far easier to add to a tractor than a 3-point. Just depends on how much work you want to do.

i brought out all the references for this one! I think I know but want to be sure! I decided this am to keep the tight transmission on the RJ and run the motor with transmission in first gear to wear in the tight bushings! It should work!

I like tractors.

I'm not so sure I would even do that. Stay out of third, add a little gear oil now and then. That thing is a real looker.

Certainly quite a large number. I can't say as I have ever taken any literally out of the hands of a scrapper or scrapping situation but I've definitely questioned it a time or two. We've bought several from a couple different estate sales and I was very happy to see that the widow in both cases was well aware of the value of the machines if not monetarily, for history.

Love the look of the Suburban. I wouldn't change anything except the front tires, need to find a pair of weathered old tires the same year. The disc set is probably not Wheel Horse but look like they would be a cool attachment for your lineup. Lots of conveyors used in packing houses used oil soaked oak bearings on the belt support rollers. When the season was over we would pop them out of the steel tubes with a slide hammer, put them in a bucket of oil and the next day or so wrap them in burlap all ready for next season.

Odd thing is the obvious toe out, fourth pic, which a guy can't do much about unless he remans the steering link. 702 & 502 i have exact same but as @Pullstart mentioned steers much better with a little toe in. He's right says my adjustable tie rod 1067.

So a buddy of @Achtos and mine is a Simplecity & AC collector. His wife has it in her head to get him a FEL for his birthday... wonder if she's got any sisters... So she finds one on FB and asks us to help her get it. Not a terrible looking rig but better than nine hour round trip to get it and the seller is asking 3 and a half Grovers for it. Little high I thought especially with no ags, weights and other things that should be on a FEL..and we all know how better a tractor looks in pics. So the question is who made this loader for Simplicity, Ark, Johson? Or is it oem? Are they rare or scarce? I advised her to pass on it and look for just the loader which we figure one can find one it should be around 15 bills. He's got more tractors to put it on than we got horses anyway. Then Dan reminds us that if the bevel gear tranny is questionable its a 400 clam rebuild. Long way to go to find out its a questionable tractor.

@Lane Ranger lane , recently got some of that , rubber care , really freshens up the look of a tire , thanks for the tip, seeing anything today , that is made in USA is strange , the world continues to get smaller , we can all remember when it was very different . pete

It’s alive! Fired up after a short cranking, no smoke, sounds ok. Engaged blades, deck is quiet. I found shifter bolt had broken nib at pivot, fabricated one, transmission now shifting. low oil in transmission and it looks like a milkshake, probably due to boot at shifter was barely there. IMG_6160.MOV

Kevin alone has amassed a few dozen or more in his herd. @SylvanLakeWH, make that 50026 +

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Didn't 1800's buggies and freight wagons have wooden bearings? Cannons too I bet. Dare I suggest the rat stays home Dan and this girl with the disc takes her place next year shows? Agree too on the tires Richard but finding them patinaed tires might be hens teeth. The rears are Generals and really good shape which we believe to be orginal.

Thanks for the post. That is a great number.

Me and one of my dogs going for a ride pic taken August 31 when the trike was running good.

In addition to clicking "excellent" on your pictures and descriptions, I also want to say "I love this tractor and the fabrication work you've done to create it". It is truly a work of mechanical art.

Down to this at 3:30 ! Quitting time for today! The newly painted RJ transmission will be going on the tractor frame tomorrow!

Doing a bunch of Wheel Horse work today! Oil and gas in the 314 hydro with snowblower! Getting ready for who knows what! Also painting a couple RJ transmissions I have. Going to switch one on my RJ I am doing for my brother ( been an off again on again project since late 2020) ! The transmission in it was rebuilt but tight in differential. When wheels are on ground the axles tighten up. I think the brass axle bushings were not honed enough but I will remove and work on it off the tractor. I have two others that are ready work and to install! Also painted some wheels and took a pair of NOS early RJ tires to get installed this am. Going to hook up the RJ throttle on the RJ for my brother David too! The 1/4 inch rubber grommet is a must in the hood throttle hole. I still have two backup K91s for this RJ redo if I am not satisfied with my K91 I have on the tractor! I do have a showerhead muffler on the redo RJ but it is a one inch snd I had to place a bushing on it! Might have to put that muffler on my 701 as it would be correct for that tractor too!

SL&WHN RR was booked solid for Election Day... Back yard trail rides, full load to the park, then "Horsey Cookies"!!! IMG_1933.MOV

Hello all! It's been a while since I posted . . . I live in FL now so it's 6 months of warm weather twice a year. I've been working part-time so between that, boating, motorcycles, mowing 5 acres and having a machete accident that set me back a few months, life got busy. Anyway, I live 40 minutes from Leesburg, FL. My wife and I attended shows/tractor-pulls at the Paquette IH Museum and grounds every year. Sadly, the owner Stew Paquette passed way in March this year. The family decided to sell the entire collection and grounds which was auctioned off last week. I didn't want to let a piece of Florida history get lost forever, so we bought one of the collection. We bought a 1940 Farmall H, that originally came from the collection of Richard "Pinky" Provost. His tractors ended up at the museum when he retired to FL and passed way in 2014. So, it's not a Wheel Horse, but IT IS RED! We picked it up last Friday. Oddly, this is what I originally wanted in 2010, but didn't have room for a big tractor when I lived in PA, so I went with Wheel Horses. Now I have room, so... I posted it here because the other thing I learned over the years is there is no other tractor forum as good as this one

So I decided to stick a set of 25 inch ATV tires underneath my tractor so I had to lift the fender pan. And the tires are being a pain to try to take off the rims. I still have the other side to get off but here's my progress so far. @857lover has been watching this I already told him I'm probably going to take the ATV tires to a shop and get them took off because I don't feel like destroying them.

I'm going with old moving lawn sprinkler... adds character to an impeccably restored ...

I hear ya Sparky. I got a Harley dealer tee from all 50 states and now that I'm retired I wear one every day instead of a company shirt. So I can go fifty days without doing laundry and that not including the tractor shirt collection!

And I recently figured out a little air pressure in the tire helps to pop the bead where you want to also…

Proof of concept… The hose groups will all be in the black sleeve and a clamp system will be built.

Yes I will look when I get home this evening.

Skinnied up the WHRat for winter storage…

You should try for $450 since the rears are mounted backwards

I would try 10W-40 synthetic. My C-160 with a Sunstrand can take both. It got weak when hot with 10-30 in it so I switched to 10-40 and it made all the difference.

Figured those were a PO creation but it seems after an internet search they're a real thing. VERY interesting. I think given the information about the ID tag and seeing the top of the "C" to confirm that, it's legitimately possible the foot holders are original to that tractor.