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Hello All, New to the group and looking for advice. My father was a devoted wheel horse enthusiast for many years. He only cut grass with a wheel horse tractor (rear discharge deck) pulling a Parker lawn sweeper. We have a lot of property and it took him a while but he was retired and loved being on the wheel horse. When he got sick, I had to take over all the lawn maintenance. All of our family lives close on the same road. At the time, I was responsible for maintaining 7 properties plus my fulltime job. Using the wheel horse was not an option for me so I bought a commercial zero turn mower. Unfortunately, in 2017 my father passed away. I have all his tractors and it has been hard for me to think about what to do with them. He had 6 wheel horse tractors total. 3 tractors we used for cutting grass and 3 tractors are show pieces that have never cut a blade of grass. I have a few guys that have been asking me for years to sell them but I am not sure if I’m ready. I am turning to the group because I am lost at what I even have. Its my belief that the tractors are rare and the conditions are mint. If anyone would be willing to express their opinion and provide feedback I would be grateful. Wheel horse 420 LSE (shows 7.5 hr) Wheel horse 520 hydro (shows 92 hr) Wheel horse classic GT (shows 26 hr)

Done & delivered to her happy new owner. She got to kick up her heels in the garden today, didn't even break a sweat, runs & tills like new!

Hi my name is Alex I’m 11 and my dad @WHGuy413 set me up with my own account.I have 4 tractors of my own I have a 604,commando 8,1077 and a 310-8 that’s in pieces.I enjoy working on my own tractors and I fix up push mowers,leaf blowers,rottitillers and snow blowers and sell them for money to work on my Wheelhorse tractors.

A favorite type of hiking that me n Trina and our best friend do is plain old bushwacking and exploring the fabled path less taken. Right here on our own side hill the recently recorded European folk's history goes back to the mid to late 1700s. There are dozens of logging twitch trails from skidders, dozers and even further back to the draft horse and steer/oxen days. We jokingly refer to some as Goat paths but they were very likely used for sheep or cattle in reality. One of those trails goes from the top of the hill on our side of the mountains to the other side of the ridge. It isn't to be found in any history book as an actual road but has been known to locals for many decades. A few years ago several of us crazies started out on the far side and walked this direction. Another time we started out here and walked into the woods up the street and bent around to the left a bit. Ended up tripping over the same road. I've been wanting to get back out there since. Today we headed up the hill and last second decided to go out the old road from this side. Here's a screen shot of our path. The left side is mostly our own tar road. Somewhere in the area of the loop at the upper right is where we shot a couple videos. Also where the official legal road from the other side of the ridge ends. That too is long gone but for on paper. We found the area to be absolutely fascinating. There's a VERY old road sized division in the two stone walls. We also found some extremely interesting rock piles. Nothing like Trina or I have ever seen and we've certainly done some fair amount of woods exploring. Videos of both are below. Somewhere in the neighborhood of the stream crossing at the upper left is this sign. Lowell Barnes was a Doctor or Dentist located in the village of East Hiram Maine on the other side of the mountain. The old road follows the conservation land border for a bit then turns right, into that parcel of land. This tree is at the gate. Cable's been wrapped there a few moons. Here's a pic of an oak that's been around a loooooong time. It's a strong 35, 40 inches across the base. View from the road toward the back side of Misery Mt. Some pics of the path between the stone walls. We don't know if the rocks were piled around the tree or... The tree grew into the pile of rocks. 3 pics next are of the rock piles. Nature. ALWAYS. Wins. The above tree is a maple that was likely bent over and broken back around 25 to 40 years ago. Maples will regrow from a stump. This particular one decided to grow straight up out of the stump as it was found laying over on its side. Super cool. This is Bill Merrill Mt from somewhere around where the brown sign is. We've been up that hill quite a few times. Cool mushrooms on a broken off dead hemlock.

The Paint Department spent some time yesterday putting a coat of burnt orange on the lower trim piece.

First, a special thanks to Marc @Tuneup fo selling me a good used set of four Z-K Machine solid aluminum replacement Mounts. My old original mounts were "pooched" - the rubber was deteriorated and had the "firmness" of Silly Putty. I had quite a bit of engine movement, particularly when engaging the PTO. Decided not to pull the engine, rather, decided to lift the engine still attached to the Shaker Plate , block it in place, and change the mounts. Did 2 modifications to the mounts - noticed evidence of thread marks from the previous install, and I counterbored the underside of the thru holes to clean out the threads - gave them a tad more wiggle room for installation. Flycut the tops to clean - removed about .010 material. I bought some stainless 5/16 SAE flatwashers and opened the hole for a snug fit for the 3/8" mounting bolts. You DO need to loosen the rear angular cast iron frame block to allow some movement to get the 4 mounting bolts in, and leave the 1/4" bolts on the ears loose too. Loctie blue on all the fasteners.... I plan on leaving the original S-shaped ground strap off, I have added an additional ground as seen in the second picture from the starter to chassis - per @peter lena Just need to tidy up what I removed yesterday. Bill

Hey Everyone. I’m picking this up tomorrow. And starting it as a project with my son. Looking forward to making it a fun project with him. Just want to give @stevebo, he’s a friend and neighbor, a thanks for getting me into this community.

Picked up a set of JD 50# wheel weights to go on a 12 auto.Plan on using to push snow. They are plastic ,wanted cast but haven’t found a good deal on those yet.40 for the pair..not bad but of course I’ll have to paint them. Also grab these old tools just need to clean them up a bit.20 bucks for the lot

Hey, I did say +… I am not up to snuff on the “newer” machines and their values, but was trying to give honest and unbiased opinions at least

He is sucked in now!

I know @Pullstart is well versed in Wheel Horse tractors however I believe his estimates are low. Just my honest opinion. Do you have the correct seat for the LSE ? Like it’s been said already if you don’t need to make a decision immediately I’d really think this through. Good thing is that you came to the right place, with honest people. I will definitely be following this thread.

Your tractors are special and if sold you will never be able to replace them. They were your Dad's and now they are yours. Keep them, they will always be worth more to you than the money you can get for them.

Welcome to the Forum! This is definitely the right place to build up your understanding of what you have there and meet some truly appreciative folks. Those three machines are indeed treasures that are highly sought among folks that know and care about Wheel Horses. Rest assured that none of those three, if they stay in that condition, are in danger of losing their value so you needn't feel pressured to make a decision in a hurry. I'm sure you might think about keeping them as a family legacy, as well as the different options for selling if you go that route. Most of us fully understand our own connections to those who came before us via things we received from them and are with you as you judge your own way of handling this.

We made the decision a couple weeks ago to sell our 1974 GMC camper. I loved that old camper, but we didn't use it enough to justify keeping it around. In the year and a half we owned it we took it camping twice and took it to one tractor show. After it sold, I just couldn't resist the urge to buy another toy to replace it. This 1946 H has been sitting at a small used car lot in the next town over for as long as I can remember. Worked out a deal on it last weekend and picked it up today. Then while we were there I ended up scoring a deal on a 1940 M with a loader as well. Going back tomorrow to get the M. The H is stuck but I looked down in all the cylinders with my scope and it looked really clean inside. Hoping it's just a couple stuck rings or a stuck valve from sitting. The M was running a couple years ago, went to the local farm store and picked up a battery for it, gonna take it and some gas with me tomorrow and see if we can get it running on site before we load it to come home

Went a cheaper way using 1/2" x 1 1/2" flat bar. Works good and I too had to loosen up the mounting blocks.

Make sure you get a starter with the correct number of teeth to insure they mesh properly. I know they are two, possible three different numbers of teeth. Count the teeth on your original if you still have it. Actually if you still have the original, you could open it up and show us some pictures of the internals. They can be rebuilt! sometimes they act slow due to the front/middle bushing being worn causing it to drag inside.

You have to clear coat immediately after base coat, or wait several days or longer until the base cures. The clear reactivates the base and causes it to lift otherwise. Sometimes full curing takes weeks.

Just swap in another 1 1/8 trans Run that trans that's in there now until you get completely used to operating that hoe. The hoe is BRUTAL on the trans axle bearings when the wheels are on the ground and pulling down digging. Larger base plates for the 2 stabilizers would help with slowing down the digging into the ground as you work. They can work themselves into the ground pretty quickly so always keep an eye on that.

That 7 hp machine will continue to impress you always. I have a Commando 6 which is essentially the same tractor and it tugs with the best of ‘em! Be mindful of their character to keep going even when the front comes up. It would be a great idea to make the front end as heavy as you can.

I believe they all had the bolt holes (that are compatible with a seat spring mount as well for round hoods). The “tunnel” sheet metal in early B or C tractors with the gas tank under the hood would have utilized those holes as well. I’m agreeing with the masses, any and all 8 speeds with 1-1/8” axles will work.

to I wish that I would have known what you know when I was 11 years old. Sounds like you may know more than me now, and I’m only 79. Good luck to you!!!

Hey I know you! Love working on stuff with you and watching you really get into these tractors!

Took the bulldozer back a mountain trail yesterday on a property we're clearing out and stumbled upon an old log structure. I was told it was an old tobacco barn.

Good afternoon My mum has moved back to the uk and in her shipping container she has bought back this little Wheel horse. I think it’s a RJ58 but all the ones I look at are different. would anyone be able to help define what it is. I can’t seem to find any that match, it has two pull stops under the steering wheel rather than a lever. also it needs some work, the lever that controls the rear linkage assy is damaged. The fuel sediment bowl assy requires replacement. Would be nice to restore this little tractor with correct paint and parts. We have a small set of discs and a front snow blade assy with it as well any help much appreciated Darren

to !!!!!! Good googley-moogley, man you came in with a bang ! Like others have said, you have some rare machines there that will be highly sought after if you decide to sell… In the condition that they are, and the extremely low hours, I would definitely be seeking top dollar. Set your price after educating yourself on what you have, and stick to your price ! Whatever you decide, Good Luck !

Wow!!' With those hours I'm thinking @Pullstart might be a bit light, but value is always willing buyer willing seller on a given day...

Wow. Those look absolutely mint! I am going out on a limb, but would assume show room condition and hours to match, you!re looking at $1200-1800 for the GT $1500-$2500 for the 520 $4000+ for the 420 LSE These are all speculations. I am trying to give an unbiased opinion without interest to buy.

Just so you know, you are sitting on a gold mine. You might want to educate yourself on here before making any final decisions. The worker tractors are a lot more than just mowers. The show tractors are as desirable as it gets, half the members on here, including myself, will have interest.

Got the M loaded up and to the house. Sometimes working for a wrecker service has its advantages. Took the new battery and some gas with me this morning...was able to get it to fire, but it does need some carburetor work (which I expected) and it is stuck in a gear. Not sure which one yet, wind is blowing about 45 mph out of the south today, but maybe one evening after work this week I'll get the cover pulled off the top of the transmission and find out what's going on inside.

One more thing- even if the base has been on for a year. If you wet sand or lightly scuff the base coat, wait at least a couple days before ANY other overcoat.

No problem checking with a voltmeter. The comment was intended for those that might bypass an ammeter which is OK, but a voltmeter bypass is a dead short.

One thing to look for on the earlier 8 speeds is the two mounting bolts for the fuel tank/seat support may not be there.

We knew when we got it from @wallfish our 1986 416-8 with the backhoe would need to have transmission seals +/-- whatever... It needs bearings so it'll be split and fixed at some point. What I'd like to do is a transmission SWAP. Rebuild one I have here and toss it in then rebuild the existing one later. I have 2 choices on hand. 1. is an unknown year 8 speed likely from sometime in the 70s because that's the years I tend to aquire. 2. is around a 1980. Both appear to be mechanically solid on exterior inspection. Either way I go, the new one would get 2 new wheel bearings and 4 seals at minimum. Will ~ ANY ~ 1⅛ axle 8 speed replace another? @stevasaurus @pfrederi @953 nut

Thank you everyone! We picked it up today the little guy is happy and as am I. I can’t wait to get started on it. @953 nut I want to restore it. Hopefully getting it looking like new one day! But for now just looking to get it running!

Brought this old girl home yesterday, found her for a dear family friend. She will spend a little time here until she & all her attachments have a clean bill of health, then off to her new home for work duty in the garden & yard.

Welcome and sorry to hear about your dad. In response to your question; I’ll go with the old “it’s/they’re worth what a willing buyer will pay for it/them.” The best way to discover this would be an auction of some kind. It would be nice if a silent auction could be set up here in the Red Square classifieds, as the highest bidders would likely be from among this group of people who truly appreciate such an outstanding collection. Rules here prohibit linking to an external auction site, though, if I’m not mistaken. Or, you could just give them to me, I’d be happy to relieve you of this troublesome burden free of charge! All kidding aside, @Handy Don makes a good point. Take your time and consider keeping them in the family. That’s a very special inheritance you have there. Once they’re gone you’ll likely never get them back.

With those beauties I am very curious to know what the other 3 are. Sorry to hear about your father and welcome to Red Square.

Very nice collection @jleitschaft

to the Mother Lode for sure.

Here's the videos. Volume UP for these.

I found it for a friend I grew up with, she knew I was big into Wheel Horses & asked if I had a rototiller for her garden. After seeing my collection she decided she wanted one of her own, so I found this one for her, she bought it & I went through it for her top to bottom. Her list of attachments has grown over the summer too, rototiller, front mower deck, mid mower deck, snow plow, snow blower, wheel weights & chains, & snow cab. I retain visitation rights though, Lol.

You’re golden!

THANKS guys for all your help.finally.I think I found the problem.jumped out pto switches and was able to finish mowing.will try to pickup new switches on Monday.really appreciate all your help!

Based on this repair manual I would say any 8 speed with 1 1/8" axles would all be compatible.

Eric - I'll say yes. You already mentioned the 1-1/8" axle size and you need that for your application. The 1" axle version like the 310-8 is not what you want.... Bill

Awesome I miss seeing Russ at the local tractor shows

So I picked this out of a pile of trash at the curb this morning. Right place at the right time I guess. Pretty good shape for its age. Best part is the tires don't need air ! Well that's the second best thing, best thing is it was FREE !!

Also just found that we're almost waterproof too. Most of the ridge cap is now on.