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I was wondering what a post topic would produce of where your Wheel Horse has perhaps traveled to? I always appreciate the Red Sq's various family photos - especially of the children and grandkids out riding the horses themselves, or with a Dad or Mom -- or in the lap of a grandparent, aunt, uncle, or older sibling! So thought you get some entertainment from a horse taking a drive to school. Here are 2 photos of my grandson's 520HC taking him to school this week -- of course perfectly parked in the school lot -- but I'm disappointed the school didn't have a designated hitching post for horses.

Hi everyone. I figured it's about time I formally introduce myself. I've been a member here for a few years but just never felt I had much to add to the absolute wealth of knowledge here. Thanks to all who make this community so special. I just recently finished a project that I started over COVID . I had to stop and restart several times because life has a way of getting in the way sometimes and like a lot of my projects this one suffered from mission creep as I decided to do more than I originally planned. But I'm finally finished. It's a C120 8 speed. I started with a craiglist special that started and ran but was very smokey. I replaced the piston, rings, and valves and put a new carb on it. Not satisfied with the appearance, I tore it all apart and sanded down to bare metal, primed and painted it. I've been around Wheel Horses since I was a kid and I have a C121 that I use to mow, plow snow, and rototill but I've never done anything quite this extensive. I couldn't have done this project without this community. So a big thank you is in order. I learned a lot over the course of this project and really enjoyed it. It's actually kind of therapeutic after spending all day long staring at my computer screens doing CAD work. Here are before and after photos. Kevin

Got two more pallets for monday and will fill in the outfield

Yes you can. May have to re-deck the piston to drop the compression depending on how much boost your compressor make. You will gain HP but you will sacrifice longevity of the engine life. It would not be an engine that I would want to rely on. Better off shaving the head, changing the cam, and leaving it naturally aspirated in my opinion. Adding a super charger or adding any performance hop ups brings me back to my favorite engine formula ( HP = $ ) This formula applies to all engines. $ to build it. $ to operate / feed it $ to maintain it

Used it to weed the garden! Lol…. Weeds are cheap chicken feed…🤪. Sickle was put on old Rusty.. New 39” belt…. Have to get a new tension spring tomorrow…

You practicin for the show Kev ?

The K's and the Magnum's with a bendix starter have magnets inside the fly wheel that spin around a stator to produce AC electricity. The output from this should be around 30-40 volts AC. These AC leads are connected to the 2 outside terminals on the voltage regulator / rectifier. The reg/rec converts the AC voltage to DC voltage and regulates the output to around 14 volt DC. The DC output is from the center terminal on the reg/rec. This terminal needs to have battery "+" voltage when the key is on or the system will not work. ( battery will not be connected to the reg/rec.) First check to see if you have AC voltage from the stator with the engine running 3/4 throttle or above. Unplug the reg/rec and probe the 2 outside terminals on the plug with a multi meter set to AC. You should have 30 to 40 volts AC. If this is working properly then move on to the reg/rec. 1 - Make sure the body of the reg/rec is properly grounded. 2 - Make sure there is battery voltage to the center terminal on the reg/rec with the key in the "ON" position. If the above check out & you do not have 13+ volts dc at the battery with the engine running then you have a bad regulator / rectifier.

We know, but isn’t that the same with everybody else? We learn from the good and the bad. Some bad things are more prevalent in “closed” isolated societies. The idea is not to judge but to learn from both the good and the bad and accept them for who they are.

I have a better than average appreciation for that sort of work ethic because of the BBT that I live with. That girl Is On The go from 7:00 or 9:00 in the morning depending on coffee fill up until 7:00 or 9:00 in the evening. Every day. The slow and steady transformation of the various parts of my home and acreage has been absolutely amazing. I appreciate every single second of the things she's done.

I used 1/4" soft copper line on one of my tractors. Easy to work with, won't rust, all connections made with compression fittings.

Yes, my neighbors are Old Order Amish farmers. They have six work horses to pull the equipment and one buggy horse. They bought the 36 acre farm 5 years ago for $470,000 and in one year built a new farmhouse, a horse barn, a greenhouse, a guinea pig barn, and a building to house a large diesel powered air compressor and generator. They work in the greenhouse during the winter growing flower baskets in time for sale during the Easter to Mothers days. Then grow cantaloupe, cabbage, broccoli, pumpkin, and cauliflower plants for spring planting. They also grow a lot of sweet corn that is seed planted in the fields. Everything is grown under plastic and fed with fertilized soaker irrigation piping under the plastic. The water on the entire 36 acre irrigation system is moved without a pump. The two deep wells are pressurized with compressed air. I am amazed at the amount of food they are able to produce. The cantaloupe crop alone will produce nearly 200,000 melons.

Spark is achieved by having a magnet on the flywheel pass by a magneto coil, same as any pull start only engine. Older engines still used points with a magneto, later engines used an solid state or electronic pickup instead of points.

Gravely 17HP, need some TLC, Deck needs work, The regular stuff. Always wanted one.

I’m bringing a couple of tractors to sell for a friend of mine. He has a C101 with a bucket on it and a Black hood tractor that I restored. They both run and drive good. If interested I can get more info for you

My neighbor a few minutes ago:

@TJ Salyers I guess it would make it easier to burn the tires off the rims!

Naw it's a track for mower racing..... build it and they will come....

Yes it is on a horse. Been on there since 2016 with no issues. I did not use any relief coils, but did leave some slack in the bends. I've seen copper used on many farm tractors that have been in service since before I was even thought of.

Original pic is of a black rat snake. Very common, and non poisonous. They also stink bad enough to smell before you see them, reproduce like rabbits, and eat everything that has feathers. They aren't overly aggressive, but will stand thier ground against a running mower... The pic below is of my 12 foot wide driveway, which serves as a decent size comparison. That snake is close to 7 feet long and as big around as a Mason jar. The second pic is a baby of the same species. They change quite a bit. It's not unusual for them to reach over 6 feet in length. They also love bird nests. They should be named black bird snake. There is supposedly some documentation of them eating other snakes. If nothing else, they offer competition to things like Copperheads, so I do my best to tolerate them around here. That being said, I hate snakes. If they get too close, they die from lead poisoning.

More sod…. 8 pallets in so far. Still no building permit for the barn.

Put it to work About 3/4 of a cubic yard of half wet compost. Didn’t feel like shoveling it in this heat and humidity I always lay a tarp in the trailer before they dump it in Run a rope through the grommets, tied rope to wheel horse. I knew what was going to happen but I did it anyway. Ripped all the grommets off the tarp is way bigger than the trailer so I twisted opposite ends of the tarp and tied them together in a knot. Run the rope through and she came right on out in 1st gear low. I did have to put a 45 and 35 weight plate on it. Should’ve got the wife to video. That compost is very heavy but the old wheel horse is tough!!

My dad ended up with one of the 1978 twin Briggs C-161s. He bought it from our neighbor when it was a couple of years old because the neighbor was aggravated that the rear fender broke almost immediately. Dad installed the metal seat pan and never looked back. It mowed grass and pushed snow for decades and still looks almost like new at a distance. The only thing he ever did to it was change the oil, a spark plug or two here and there, regular maintenance and it is still running strong today. When he passed away years ago I was lucky enough to end up with it. Here’s a pic of how it looks after I got it out of his basement and cleaned it all up and how it looks today. I’ve said it before but he was very particular with his stuff and it was always cleaned up and stored in his basement the entire time he had it.

Sundstrands have the tow valve at three different locations. #1. a screw driver slotted stem on the left front #2. a tee handle petcock type handle on the left top #3. a hex bolt head on the left rear....1/2 I think?

He says this is a '67 Dan so may or may not have the handle. Located just in front of the tool box left side. Ther should be a sticker on the tool box just in back of it but may be gone or painted over . I thought I had some pics but can get them. Half turn on the tow valve is all it takes. 877 1077 1277 Tow valve (1).pdf

Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Buy a whole new door, $840. Buy just one slab, $380. Make your own slab, less than $100.

if you do make it to the Big Show be sure to check out BIG ED'S BUCKET BAZAAR there's always plenty of deals at Big Ed's

James, it could be as simple as a blown fuse or a wire with a lot of corrosion on the end. With the key ON and engine not running there should be battery voltage (12 volts +/-) on the center terminal of the regulator, it won't work without it.

Good morning amigos! I have a question for you guys. First of all, I confess that I do not understand the difference between a magnum motor and an old K series motor. I understand that the K-series has points, and a magnum does not. But I have intentionally (I know I know…typical lazy millienneal l behavior) never investigated or bothered to understand how the magnum motors throw spark. This is probably because ive never had a “no spark” problem with my magnum motors. They just work. SO the reason I bring this up, is because I wanted to make it known that I don’t fully understand the electricals on my magnum motors. With that being said, I also don’t understand how they charge. My issue, and reason for making this post is because I am picking up a 312-8 from a friend this weekend and he said the only issue is that the machine is not charging. I am wondering how do I trouble shoot this, and what are potential parts I need to look for at the big show to make it work. The previous owner mentioned to me that he used a volt meter and found that the he wasn’t getting juice from the middle plug coming from somewhere (its been a few months). Is it a rectifier or voltage regulator maybe? Its definitely a magnum motor and not a starter generator motor. Thanks,

sunscreen Thanks Mike, knew I was forgetting something. Forecast looks good so far, we always have weather for the Big Show. Just don't know what kind of weather till it happens.

I hope it rains pitch forks & hammer handles on you canaries.... naw just kidding.... I was hoping diesel would go down to 50 cent a gallon too. Have fun and Somebody assign a chaperone to Pullhosen make sure he gets a tee for Dan and I! BTW Kev my WHCC dues are up if ya got an extra 10 spot.

I wonder if the spring on the idler arm has gone soft?

No replacement for displacement.

As will a bigga engine... Don

little electric babies taking over the east side lawns… like Edward Scissor Hands gone Turbo!

Hhhmmm… Maybe I’ll breed them… Oops… Sorry for the visuals…

This isn't the first time this topic has arisen... One very important thing to note about roots style blowers is that they do rob a good amount of power to drive them... so just like any small engine... the power it takes to drive it somewhat outweighs the power output of the blower. In my opinion, the best power output that you could get with a blower would come on a v-twin engine. Having said that... you would definitely want to pick an engine that you could buy parts for... forged or billet rods, (preferably forged piston tops), heavy duty wrist pins, forged crankshaft, stainless valves with... I'd probably go with 65+++ LB valve springs, hard face welded cam, billet roller rockers, ported heads, billet flywheel, dual carb kit, etc etc etc. Then you have to force fuel into the carb via a high performance fuel pump. Precisely. By the time you built the engine itself... you may be too tired to supercharge it... ha ha... plus... I think it would cost over 2,000$ to actually do it right... Supercharging an engine, increasing power output, or increasing RPMs isn't something you want to do half-butt. It could easily turn into a grenade and hurt/kill users. NAILED IT... Max... We already have this problem with naturally aspirated engines... how much pressure can you put on them before the rods give up... engine lugging... rpm's... etc... what can you do before it grenades. Here is the deal... anyone who modifies engines, and plans to have them around for a while needs to understand that things have to be done right. It isn't something that you build, then go have fun and never have to worry about it again. You have to continuously maintenance them, check them etc. You know how often I check rod torque, valve lash, compression, etc... on my performance engines? EVERY MONTH!!! With modifying engines comes a lot of time, money, and care. Personally, having performance engines in my possession... and having built quite a few of them... there is no mechanical reason to supercharge any small engine. With a 457, I get instant power... up to 7650 RPM... no bogging, no backing down. The engine hits peak RPM and power in 1/2 a second. With my Tillotson, it is the same story... just a tiny bit more lag in higher gears. Still... even being half the size of the 457... that Tilly 212 is pretty sick... almost hitting 9,000 RPM... Bottom line... supercharging is for the big-dogs... Yote swaps... LS base engines... etc... Just not logical for small engines, in my opinion. Attainable? Yes. Logical? no. Not intended to offend anyone, just giving my analysis from a performance standpoint. Don

Peter - all great information thank you. I was considering the bagger to help with leaf clean up. Its an easy little rig to put the wife on and send off to work while I use the sweeper. Thank you again!

he's freshman --- some of the students drive their ATV's, or in winter even snowmobiles to school

he said about 20 minutes - - just a couple miles

The original steel tubes from the fuel pump to the carburetor were installed using Parker-Hannifin anti-vibration fittings. They were like compression but used a rubber compression ring to hold the tube and absorb vibrations from the engine which were causing leaks. The steel tube connections were superceded by flexible fuel lines.

That is why they have million dollar farms and others have next to nothing.

All Sunstrand's in the 60's have a tow valve. Your '68 probably has a handle on the tow valve, '67 will require a wrench to open & close it.

Just for that, you're staying in the truck!

Hey Ed, that is meant with a Workhorse ???? oh no- cmon... kidding eh? a Workhorse is grey, this one is candy - white. So that Workhorse must surely be a fake or a bad copy or something like that..... 😂 Sorry for my Ignorance, but it appears to me your Neighbours are Amish Peoples. Here these day‘s nobody does work with Horses on the Field so for me it‘s unusual that‘s why i‘m asking. Am i right with my guess, the Dresscode let me estimate in that Direction.

I have about 2/3 of the stuff in the truck cab that will go there, also started loading the bed of the truck. Need to finish the packing this weekend so I can do family stuff Monday and Tuesday. My wife's birthday is Wednesday so her sister is visiting and we will do the birthday cake on Tuesday. That way I can hit the road early Wednesday and see you for dinner at the Italian Village Restaurant. With inflation being what it is the price of birthday candles has gone sky high and as old as we are getting we're needing more and more candles.

Who knew that we have such good people here...except for the fact that we see it pretty often. How many times has someone said "yeah, I've got what you need, give me your address and I'll send it to you". Makes me proud to be a support member of this site....

I finally stacked all the firewood from that maple tree, it produced 2.8 cords.

Made the dash plate for the custom, mowed a couple yards, then took a beer break and watched the neighbor finish the cantaloupe planting.