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K301 carb connected and the linkage adjusted. Coil mounted. The starter return spring is knackered (I do like that word). Removed it and messed with it until it could rightly tuck when mercilously rammed by the bendix. Mounted. Stared at three mufflers and an assortment of piping. It's down to painting an original ebay model that now sits on the old C120 and is quieter than the remake. This rebuild has been fun. She's about ready to start so I can see if a 60 year old brain can align timing marks and how much a 301 vibrates without its balance gears. It could all go to hell but it never has since the teen days. First bore though so it will be a 12HP engine that actually makes 12HP.

Whatever it is it would make a pretty cool shifter handle for a rat tractor.

I mowed this evening with my late grandfathers 416H. I love how it stripes. I’m pretty sure my neighbors love the fact that my headlights now work and I can mow well into the evening. Tonight was til 9 and I still have about a 1/3 left!

I never did show my hood now did I? Better late than never.. my dad bent op some sheetmetal according to a buck I made to follow the shape of the grille as closely as possible. This is the result. Unfortunately I had to notch the hood to make the cylinderheads fit. No biggie in itself but the "International" sticker will read something like "Inte_____onal".

All the plastic is back in place and I’m ready to pull something!

Our Denali now has limited eyesight, but still plenty healthy and active otherwise. 2 new cat additions, Cheeto and Snickers, are plenty interesting to her. Her pups Monroe and Selu hefted up over the winter and are now on a bit of a diet! And Rex the seal coated bunny is interesting to everyone, and he does the 'ol hop kick bang on the side of his cage if they mess around too much!

It is for this reason that the first thing that we get working on a new to us tractor is the cigar lighter. Gotta make sure that works before we determine if the engine will even run.

While the starters off clean the surface of the block and the mounting pads of the starter. Clean the bolt threads. It only takes a little bit of dirt and rust to cause voltage drop.

Apparently it is an adjustable wrench, perhaps the predecessor to today's monkey wrench. Probably for tightening square headed bolts and nuts.

So far the best explanation as to what it is I have found is that it is part of a carbonation system from an old soda fountain, or maybe a brewery or tavern. Thinking it is supposed to have an electric motor on it, but someone converted it to be ran off of a flat belt. Hook it up to a Maytag 92 and it might be an interesting piece at a show.

Well Now, After rounding up all the usual suspects, it turned out the culprit was one we did not suspect. The old starter solenoid had a whopping voltage drop of 3 volts across it during cranking. Without getting my slide rule and calculator out I can already estimate the current or amperage loss would be approaching 75 amps easy. As soon as i measured that drop I knew right away this had to be changed out. Once a new one was installed and all the terminals cleaned, it turns over like the wind now without issue at all. I can see its time to change all the high current cables. So they are on my list. I cannot measure a voltage drop across the new solenoid.

Also known as a hand vise. Is the other side for metric? 🔩

Bailey on the way home from the doggie spa !

I've gotten into the habit of putting the negative battery cable directly to one of the starter mount bolts. Not sure if that's practical in all models.

Have not updated in awhile,life and all! Most if the work was done with my c-160 and my 312-8

I found a mouse nest a couple weeks ago on a shelf in the garage, it smelled nice. The dryer sheets lining the nest were a nice fashion statement!

Yes thanks I did find that and had it adjusted back so far the clutch was almost on the floorboard. I think that is the problem .the transmission input key is good but I just realized that the wheel hub key looks to be half out maybe.

I see from the wheelchair supply you are ready for the annual Big Show Games…

If the donor kubita isnt available, or just seems oversized, im gonna bite the bullet on one of the HF towables, do some digging with as is, then work on adapting to Dug. Gotta get the pool in!

Still working on those spindles! But spied a burnt down small kubota tlb(b23?) Working on figurin who owns the machine and what it would take to get the backhoe off of it! Likely need all new hoses and may need to rebuild cylinders and controls. Fingers crossed!

Exactly right. It is an adjustable wrench . To my knowledge the first of its kind. Square nuts were the norm at that time and many relatively large . It has a 1-3/4” capacity. As per my father my grand father already inherited it from his father. Pictured here with an item it probably was used on frequently. Hardware used on an oxen cart.

Yes. A wider gap advances to timing.

Another layer of paint and that bad boy wouldn'ta fit!

Those gaskets are available ... think it was on fleabay I got some. We run our pellet grills at shows off our vintage tractors don't we @Achto Think the Ponds would have dreamed we would be charging smart phones & smoking pork off cigar lighters when they put them on in the 60's?!?!?

The hydro lift would be the way to go with your snow blower, also you will probably be doing more direction changes while blowing snow than mowing so the 416's hydro trans is a big plus. We had an UGLY SEAT CONTEST here a few years back, too bad you didn't have the C-105 then.

You could swap out the known good starter from the other to see if the problem goes away. It could very well be the starter is dragging a bit but I would think this wouldn't change with engine temperature. I think that new battery cables should be considered too.

Started moving the wheelhorses to the temporary storage unit in town. This is "Pete" the C-161 that's getting an engine transplant and FEL. Amazingly the half knackered briggs fired up and let me drive him to the trailer - has sat for nearly 2 years. All the fibreglass bodywork is already at the storage unit, along with the 416-8.

You ain’t kidding. This thing weighs a ton. We have a big show this weekend. The thought crossed my mind to bring it and run it. My friends are trying to get me to bring my pellet smoker so I could run that with it I hope. I can always bring the little inverter as a back up.

I made some progress on it tonight after I got home from Alex’s baseball practice. Carb is clean and reinstalled. I drained the old gas out of the tank and flushed it with new stuff. I pulled a glass fuel bowl off of my complete k90, that sits on display, just to test it but the cork gasket that seals the glass to the fuel shut off is bad and leaks gas. Tomorrow I get home before 8 for once (baseball is life for these boys even over tractors) since there is no baseball. I’m going to try cutting my own gasket and see if I can get it to fire up.

Bailey !… He goes to doggie spa tomorrow !

Mike, goat droppings are little pallets sort of like deer poop. I may not know much but don't let anyone tell you I don't know $H!t.

Today I set out to cure a design flaw that plagues most of our tractors. First let me start off by saying - "If you've never cut 10ga sheet metal with a jig saw, then you are definitely missing out on life!" You really need to add it to your bucket list. I'm here to tell you that it is like hitting your self in the head with a hammer. It feels good to stop. Now back to the task at hand. What flaw was I fixing? Why did I need to cut 10ga with a jig saw? Well first off I did not have a hole saw big enough to do the job, this is why I used a jig saw. Why was there 10ga sheet metal on a D160? IDK, don't know the back story on the custom fenders and seat set up. Guess the PO wanted to make sure that they were heavy enough. As for the flaw, well I plan on using my new to me D160 with a double seat as a show cruiser and there was just no place to safely set my drink while I'm cruising around. To cure this issue as well as cure the issue for my passenger I added two cup holders to the center counsel. But wait!! There's more! Because I saw them and decided that it was a GOTTA HAVE item. Also because I think that even a rusty old tractor deserves a little "BLING", I stepped it up a little with my cup holders. Can you say LED?? Sure, I knew you could. Should have no problem finding where to put your drink while cruising around in the dark with these babies.

As she goes

The 416’s hydro unit is an Eaton 1100 and uses 10w-30 motor oil and that NAPA Wix filter mentioned above. The Eaton handles the tractor forward and reverse motion AND the hydraulic lift. So one fluid/filter swap takes care of both motion and lift. The C-105-8 speed uses 80-90w gear oil. Approximately 2 quarts.

I recently acquired two Wheel Horse tractors from a relative who wanted to get rid of them. I’ve never owned a Wheel Horse before, and have some questions about them. I’ll tell a little about each tractor. C-105. This tractor is in rough cosmetic and running shape. From the S/N plate I know it’s a 1981. The relative I got it from is the original owner, and has had the engine rebuilt once (because he said he ran it out of oil). This tractor came to me with wheel weights and snow chains on it. He’s supposed to give me the snowblower that goes with it as well. When I changed the oil, some thick metallic sludge came out first. I would imagine the engine has a stuck ring, or something that’s causing it to eat itself. Also there is oil on the head fins, which I’ve read is a sign of a cracked head. This mower also smokes a lot when it runs. I would assume this engine will need a complete rebuild if I ever want to use the tractor for anything. It has what looks to be the original Kohler 10hp engine. 416-H. This tractor is in much better shape than the other. But unfortunately it was being stored outside. I got this one in non running condition. The S/N plate is not where it’s supposed to be on the rear fender. So I don’t know the year. Also the engine data plate is too faded to read. So I can’t get the age info from there either. I found that the seat switch was wired wrong. Someone had spliced the wires together so that the seat light was always on. And the seat was adjusted so it would never touch the seat switch anyways. So I spliced yellow and Orange together for now so it runs. The battery terminal on the ignition switch was broken off. So I borrowed the ignition switch from the C-105 (same P/N). I fired up the Onan 16hp and it runs great. I changed the oil and oil filter, as well as the fuel filter. The mower runs and mows great. I greased all the fittings and sharpened the blades. It shows 487 hours on the hour meter. Sorry for the long post. My questions are this. What is the service interval for greasing the front spindles? Also, on the 416-H, should I go ahead and change the hydro filter and fluid since I don’t know the last time it was done? I’ve noticed that some people are running a Tri rib front tire. What size are you using, and are you reusing the factory wheels? I was happy to see that there’s a forum devoted to these mowers. I’m on a couple of farm tractor forums also. My other tractors are a Ford 3000 diesel, and Ford 8N. So I’m used to working on tractors, just a little bit bigger.

They have never failed me but I could see how they would make it nice and fresh for them

Looks like a mechanical air compressor of some sort. Not sure what it would be used for. Looks too small for diving.

The back side of those nuts are cleaner than what you see. I didnt see any signs of heating on those posts, but there is some signs of heating on the back of the solenoid. I suspect the contacts inside are corroded. Ive placed it in the circular file for no future reference

Clyde my C195 agrees with @SylvanLakeWH: to the forum. Good bunch of folks here. Collectively, we've probably broken, and fixed, a Wheel Horse in every possible way. Got questions, ask them - you will probably get at least one good answer here.

@Bigtrx34 , should be good tomorrow early am , pontoon kick boat fly fishing ,just loaded up my car , bass and crappie . hook in mouth , pete

Was hoping 300lbs wasn't too much, its what Im figuring...appreciate the response, thank you

Actually you only need to remove the oil pan in order to change the ACR spring on the cam. Hardest part is getting it hooked back on in the limited space.

Yes they are put the whole motor has to come apart to almost the last step. @Achto knows he just had to do one on a Case Kohler. Lets save that for a last resort! You might be able to check them through the cam cover??

Disassembly is super easy - you need to make 4 brush holders for "easy" re-assembly. Do check the magnets - I had a functional, but sluggish starter on the C81. Pulled it apart - surprise! It must have been dropped because one magnet was broken at one end, yet it worked!! I had a "spare" - did a mix & match of the best pieces - and had to make the 4 brush holders - no more problem. AND added a ground cable to the end cap of the starter ... Bill

See my post #23 above.

if there’s a positive to the 416-H being stored outside, the transmission can’t get water in it at least! Most service intervals are 50 hours. For the trans, WIX 51410 or NAPA 1410 hydro filter and replace oil for oil or atf for atf - don’t mix.

Well on that note, i finished upgrading the pivots(still need a few more washers), and added some temp shackles, ill be looking for ones that fit properly, that i can attach these type, or carabiners to.