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Have a great birthday Karl and thank you very much for all your hard work. You have assembled quite a team here and run a tight ship. It is much appreciated.

Thank you all for the Happy Birthday wishes, having a good day so far although I do feel a nap coming on.

Well for all of you contemplating this thread, I will share my journey with you. The first thing to remember is that none of your children really want anything that you have. Yes, there are exceptions, but in general your heirloom furniture, gold rimmed china, and wheel horse tractor collections are not something the younger generation wants. So, when I decided to move to Florida, I made the decision to sell it off. Some items went to RS members, others were sold on CL. A neighbor bought a 416H and one bought a lawn roller. A few CL buyers were enthusiasts and I gave them all my spare parts. The last to go was my restored C141, aka "The Baby". I would have liked to take it to FL but no room to keep it and nothing for it to do. That was probably a mistake as I think back with fond memories of the restoration process and letting the grandkids drive it around. Time waits for no one. Things have changed in "the Wheel Horse World" Parts and equipment are harder to find, more costly, and are just not in as good condition. RS members that I used to follow on the forums are disappearing. The older generation who really appreciates these fine machines are departing. I bought my first horse in 1979 and in 2011 I discovered RS. For the next 7 years I accumulated 5 tractors, multiple decks, snow plows, a bucket loader, a dethatcher, a trailer, a lawn roller, cast iron wheel weights, suitcase weights, and multiple spare parts. It was a great time in my life, but it was time to move on. I check into RS from time to time just to reminisce. The memories are great and I am thankful for those members I met (virtually) along the way. Cheers to all of you Don

My words to her exactly since odds are pretty good I'm gonna croak before her. @Achto gets pick of the litter if he can come up with room at the inn. She didn't quite see my logic tho. She is more interested in recouping $$ I have sunk into tractors. Second thought was having the horses & parts hauled out to PA for an auction. Possibly at the BS? with a portion to be donated to WHCC. If they don't find a good home there all hope is lost! That went over a little better. Rest of my crap I don't care I'll be dead.

Put the new carb and the dash plate on the 856 project.

1075 and the dump cart I bought from a junk man for 10 bucks

I have one. This old girl is almost completely factory original. Not a dent, and no rebuild on the engine.

Got started on the front end of the new project. Bored the axle pivot hole out to 0.750" and drilled and tapped for grease zerks. Drilled and tapped an axle pivot pin. I like to bolt the pin in and put a little squeeze on the axle to help minimize any wobble.

I would say that if all else fails that you find a guy on this very forum who shows dedication to your own philosophy and visit him at his Wheelhorse man cave. That visit will tell you all you want to know.about whether or not he will keep the old iron going.. I have plenty to work on at this time and if i find one to buy,it would be for a friend or relative. Even if your unfinished stuff is pretty much part-out quality, I think I would sell mine to the vendor on this very forum who serves us. So in a way, its like an organ donation for the life of this forum.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Karl!! If we were in an airport right now I’d buy ya a birthday beer 🍺 @nylyon

I’m still a relatively young guy, but I can’t say the thought hasn’t crossed my head. I believe that for antiques in general we are never truly the owners, just the caretakers. If anything we’re to happen to me, I know that as of right now my teenage brother would take care of my stuff. All the old tools, saws and tractors would be in safe hands. for me though, as long as the equipment finds it’s way to a nice home I don’t care where it ends up. The tools are my concern. My tools are the result of generations of mechanics in my family. Every socket has a story longer than most people have been alive. hopefully one day I’ll have a son or daughter I’ll be able to teach to work on there own stuff. And hopefully they’ll be able to hold on to the family tools. Everything else can move onto good homes.

Finished. Got the front weights mounted and rear carriage bolts trimmed. She is a thing of beauty to my eye. Not horse wheel weights but they look super nice. And those rears stacked are at least 100lbs. Per side. I’m real happy with it!

Not Friday, but…

Okay, sourced another one, just arranging for a holding deposit so it doesn't get sold under me again! Missing airbox cover, but otherwise runs fine. Can source parts easily enough.

It can get pricey. Another option is the Traveller Brand at Tractor Supply, they have both the Lithium based and Poly stuff. I have been using the Traveller Premium Heavy Duty Lithium Grease for years and no issues. $3.50 a tube and $2.99 on sale. Has about the same spec of the Lucas R&T and no race car tarfs.

Pete, I live to work on them. It is a true joy for me. I am in a band that I thought was my passion till I got back into this hobby again for the second time. My true interest is start/gen tractors. Simple but over built. Enjoy the day.

LOL you guys are cracking me up! This guy didn't have it THAT bad... he had a brand new 4wd Deere and a shed full of implements, a museum quality C5 Z06 on the lift, and a mint condition 90's Ford Ranger with the 3.0L v6. I commented on how it was an interesting vehicle to restore and he was like I didn't restore it, just kept up on the maintenance and mothballed it over winter. I knew right then I made the right choice to rent a U-Haul before going over there. These 312's had the oil changed every 25hrs without fail, and he used the correct weight depending on the season (it's all in the logbook).

He puts up with you. That qualifies Karl for "Sainthood!" He he!

Since I removed all of their source of nesting material, they have all moved up the street to a log cabin. Me doing the bee removal.

Front suspension needs a lift kit.

Spark Show videos...both nights Friday night Saturday Night

As promised here are some of my pics from the show...wasn't able to get as many as I usually do...was too busy being back and forth from the tractor show field to the engine show area, as well as helping sell raffle tickets for the Allis B the Historical Society is giving away at our yearly show in September. Our 1949 C parked between a beautiful M and F30 Our display and campsite in the engine show area Couple of neat implements and the story behind them Probably my most favorite tractor in the whole show...I'm an IH guy through and through, but the first tractor I ever drove was an Allis Chalmers D15 that belonged to my grandpa (same grandpa we bought the C from last week) so seeing this beautifully restored D15 brought back so many memories of that summer and learning to drive that old tractor Another Case SC with wide front. I own one of these but don't see many of them at shows.

Morgan got exercise today pulling a cement mixer, bags of cement, and toting tools around. Got the pad at the edge of the lake poured for the dock. Yup, I took a couple of pictures, but I got too wiped out, heaving too many 80 pound bags of concrete around to post them. Maybe tomorrow. With any luck, I'll get the blocks laid tomorrow.

They never did to my knowledge. That little tractor was custom built several years ago and has been at the Pawnee show just about every year since. Head over to the other brands board and check out my thread on our engines...there is a video there of the tractor running and a link to a magazine article about it. @oliver2-44at least you got my good side in the photo had I seen you there I would've looked in that direction and give ya a wave...glad you enjoyed the show. Pawnee is one of our favorites, second only to our annual Threshing Bee we put on at the Major County Historical Society in Fairview OK every September. Still going through all of my pics from this weekend. Will try to get some of them posted here soon. I've got some videos of the spark show and a few other things to get up on my YouTube channel...will link them here as well.

Again. Despite my best efforts... I've learned something.

WANTED: A good woman that loves and owns Wheel Horse machines for a relationship, possibly marriage. Send photos of the Wheel Horses.

Throw a Belleview washer under the nylock. That would keep some tension in the joint and kill rattles.

Greetings. About 2 years ago I bought my first C160. It is an 8 speed and came with a roto tiller and the small grass cutting deck. This was the machine i cut my teeth on so to speak. I quickly learned this model was also made with a hydro static drive with a hydraulic lift. This seemed like the holy grail to own to me. So i kept one eye open for an Auto. A few came up, but most were priced sky high. Too much for this old guy. But then it happened. I was watching one for sale last year the guy wanted 2 grand for it. It was just too far of a reach for me to spend on an older tractor. Regardless of the value. Then one day last fall, the listing disappeared. I assumed it sold. Awe shucks. But... it showed up again in the listings a few days ago. Turns out he had cancelled the listing for the winter. However the big difference was the price.... he had dropped price. Not just a little either.... he went from 2000 down to 800. And that was Canadian so 800 is like 600 USD. He said he was tired of looking at it. Needless to say I snapped it up immediately!!! Some of you have already seen this unit as I asked for some advice about connecting my tiller. Thanks to those who helped. You got me pointed in the right directions and i have some bits and pieces on order from Lowell. So although it looks pretty, it needed some work to make it run well. Points, condenser, plug went in right away. Then an ignition switch. Sadly it had an amazon carb on it that was pure junk and I replaced it with an original one that works well. I also replaced the front plastic roller wheel on the mower deck as the one they put on was way too small and the deck was catching the ground. So it start well, runs well and cuts the grass well. However there is lots more service work to come. So the big question is the hydro transmission. How well do they stand up? Do they have any weak points I should know about? If there anything I can do now to prevent a failure? Are they expensive to rebuild? 1977 C160 Auto Model # 1.6KS02 Just tryin' to stay ahead of the curve Cheers!

Thanks to those who responded. All the info here got me going in the right direction. Really Appreciate it. What a great community this truly is. Cheers!

.22 pistol with bird shot

Also likely an "anti crushed to flat" kit.

For today's sideshot, you folks get a view of my Mckissick chipper

I found a couple within an hour drive. That sell by the pound and have a chart of 1pound of a certain size =$x. My high school has a metal shop, and I could see if they can make the holes and maybe cuts if I need it. That would probably be even cheaper than a shop doing it. I'll look into a saw for myself too. Thanks

Happy Birthday Karl thanks for all the work you do and putting up with all the Riff Raft in the basement .

I put bigger wheels on the deck, had to make short extension. I needed my deck higher to pick up leaves without cutting much of the grass

Well, maybe $150 for a plow and $150 for a decent deck here in Pee Aaaa. Anyway, you get two free tractors.

There re no brakes on this hydro. The "brake" pedal merely moves the motion control to neutral. You can adjust the "touchyness" by tightening the motion control friction and also be a good idea to do a neutral adjustment. Both are covered in the owners manual

Yeah its great how people dredge this stuff up for discussion, amazing how much you can learn on here.

Hi Joe, Yeah I have to agree, another 10hp will be available so I dont have to rush to buy the smaller one today and the prices seem to be about the same on the used market. Shame I can justify a new one! Thanks for taking the time to look through the specs, and with all the additional hydraulic loads for FEL etc probably better to wait. Could try the smaller engine on one of the C125s at some point as they would only be towing a trailer or running the mower deck.

You don't have to wait until the Meet & Greet in September to bring one of your tractors over here and go for a ride with me. In case you get tied up and can't make the Meet. Your probably only a half an hour drive from me. Beautiful job on that tractor. @WheelhorseBob Send me a PM if interested Bob.

. Check the metal disc that goes against the clutch. Mine was cupped and the outer 1/2" or so was all that was making contact. Took it to a machinist and had it turned like a brake rotor. Problem solved...

I didn't with mine either since it's what I use to mow around here... but then, it was up on the sawhorses... and I had a new box of stripping pads... and... and... I got a case of the "might as wells"... and for a while, until the first time I mowed... it did look 'almost' new. And then I made all those modifications to strengthen it up and did some touch up painting.. and it looked 'almost' new again, until I mowed.

You need to make you a calendar reservation for @JCM Jim's in September. That machine sure would be an excellent piece to bring.... Right down the road from ya!

I think I may have found a better candidate for a lil fixer upper. I'll probably end up keeping it its either this or a copar panzer for $600

My 856 project just got a little brighter. The holes were already in the hood. At one time it must of had lights on it. So I found these for 13 bucks so .......... there they are. Going to install new choke and throttle cables later today. Still have no idea if it's going to run or not but I have faith. Lol I also have another engine in the garage just in case !

Yesterday I took the new, to me, trailer tailgate frame to a mate of mine who was a sheet metal worker. Got that welded up then called at the local smithy for a piece of galvanised plate. This morning I got the frame painted and by this afternoon it was ready to assemble. Now fitted.

I remember seeing something about a spring like that on a post on here. I'm pretty new to the hydro tractors. Just picked one up last fall but everything I've had before that is manual transmissions. Someone else should be along to help you out with what that spring actually does. Seems to me it returns the brake pedal to the upward position because there's a broken spring inside the transmission tunnel.

Changed engine oil and added zinc Changed hydrostatic fluid and filter Checked spark plug and air filter Topped off snowblower auger gearbox, cleaned and lubed chain Greased zerk fittings Put 2 stage blower in its summer house Changed tractor to tow mode Please excuse the green green things on the front, but I haven't remembered to get the IH red paint yet.

Dang spell check!