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First Ford/Jacobsen GT I've owned. Winter project perhaps but there's a long list... It seems well built but nothing exceptional although the cast aluminum is remarkable. Only the second tiller attachment I have. Will be interesting to compare it to my WH tiller. Pictures don't show it but I have all the sheet metal. PO tore it down some and started to restore it. It's in pretty good shape overall, except for being a basket case of parts!

Nope, not fat enough!

That might be a good thing. I know I didn't have enough sense to be driving when I was 16...

The parts for my other project are still at the media blaster, and I have no clue when I will get them back. Could be a week, could be 6 weeks. I needed something to do, so I decided to at least take the K341 off of my brand "X" tractor, and get started on it. I have already replaced the carb, coil, plug, points, condenser, and all fuel lines on the tractor just to get it running. I don't know if it needed all that, but I did it anyway. It didn't seem to run too bad, but like I said, I need something to do. I have said before, every time I work on another engine, I learn something new. I learned a lot today. Before I took it off the tractor I stripped off the muffler, carb and linkage, coil, condenser, valve cover, and a few other incidentals. I wanted to do a leak down test. This is a shaft driven, hydro-static tractor, and I thought it may be easier to hold the crank in place, while still on the tractor. I got the motor to where I thought TDC would be, and checked through the little peep hole for the timing mark. Didn't see any. I thought this would be a good time to watch a video. I found 2 EXCELLENT videos on performing a leak down test on a Kohler. I believe the videos are actually put out by Kohler. Leak Down Test Understanding A Leak Down Test These videos are both well worth your time, if you have not seen them. In the past, one of the problems I had trying to do a leak down test, was holding the motor at TDC during the test. The first video explains, IF you actually have you motor at TDC you don't have to hold it. It will stay there by itself. Whooda thunk? I found this to be true. There are no vice-grips, wrenches, pipe wrenches, or any other device holding this motor at TDC. But don't jar anything too much, because it will take off on you, even at 20 psi. It also explains that the key way in the crank shaft will line up parallel with the cylinder, IF you are truly at TDC. I found this to be true also. Again. Whooda thunk? Once I had the motor at TRUE TDC, the timing mark was clearly visible. Here hare the results of my leak down test. With a pressure of 80 psi from my compressor, my cylinder showed 74 psi. This calculates to a drop of 8%. I think that's pretty good. I don't see any reason for a complete overhaul of this motor. I will however open it up and remove the balance gears. (I think) Is it possible to remove the balance gears without removing the rod and crank? I may also lap the valves but then again, like they say, "If it aint broke, don't fix it"' I will replace all the gaskets and seals using ONLY OEM Kohler parts. I've had enough of those ebay kits. This is as far as I am going today. Tomorrow I will yank it off the tractor, and get it on my stand. I'll remove the head, and see what I can see. There appears to be red RTV Silicone on the valve cover gasket, which leads me to believe someone has been into this motor before. I'll find out just how far they have been, tomorrow.

Since you don't NEED any saws they probably will make great wall hangers. A plasma cutter and a bit of skill can do wonders! If your wife if rolling her eyes over three imagine how she would react to this!

We have a "Classified Section" "For Sale" on this site. We do not sell things on the Main Page. Welcome to Red Square, but Please read the rules. BTW, a 753 is not a 1964 horse.

The first thing I was going to respond was the guy looks too skinny. Legs look about right though! Haven't changed a bit!

I figured it's about time to congratulate @ebinmaine on this past weekend score here so all his buddies can see what he's really like when content. You may see a difference in the before and after pictures. In the first picture he's like a kid on the 25th of December and on the second one he seems very happy looking for berries. I mean how many C-160's should a BEAR legally own ? Only he knows the answer to that question. Great job on that score Bear, and thanks for taking me along, much appreciated.

Hay, aren't we wandering away from the topic of this thread. I don't know if the market for a true garden tractor even exists to say anything about an electric garden tractor. There isn't much out there that fill the gap between a riding mower and a sub-compact tractor. My sister-in-law has a 30" Ryobi battery powered riding mower. For her small yard it is the right size though it cost three times what a small gas rider would. Granted, there are no oil changes or tune-ups needed but it would take a lot of servicing to offset the price difference. They advertise it as having the ability to mow (up tp) one acre per charge and clime it will operate for one hour, didn't say if that is an hour of mowing or just riding around. I'm of the same thought as Jay @roadapples, at 76 years of age I'm sure my s will outlast my days of operating them.

Dave Mercer gave that tractor to me last fall. That tractor spent all summer in my barn, and I spent many hours figuring out the wiring mess, freeing up the motor, attaching the hood, fenders, and seat, making the lights work, etc. I had to do a lot of learning, but I did have all the manuals which was a great help. It did not have a charger, so I added a standard golf cart charger to the setup. See the photo with the hood open. I made several other revisions to make things work. I have several GE Elec-Trak tractors, and mow my lawn with the New Idea version EGT120, so I am familiar with these. However, this Wheel Horse was a totally different design. Basically, they took a C141 gas tractor,and removed the engine and put in an electric motor. When you turn on the key the motor runs at full speed, then you drive it using a clutch pedal and gear shift, same as the gas tractor. It is designed to use 6 12 volt deep-cycle batteries, 2 banks of 3 batteries wired in series, then these banks are connected in parallel at the power disconnect. I'm not sure why Wheel Horse chose that odd system. The Elec-Trak is designed to use six 6V golf cart batteries. Dave will be sending you my contact information, so if you get into some questions you can get in touch with me. Have fun with the tractor. Erv Troyer Lagrange, IN

a little more accomplished, SLOWWWW but sure !

I have one of the 3-D printed lenses for that style hood and while it doesn’t look exactly like the original I think it looks good on there and it works well.

https://www.harborfreight.com/cylinder-leak-down-tester-64918.html

At 73, I don't think I'll have to quit using my wheel horses...

@whx my plans as of right now are to keep her for ever,I’m not a buy and flip guy. I’m blessed to have the proper place to keep her where she’ll remain in her pristine state. I’m not in this to make money with this purchase, on the contrary I had to scramble money for months to make this happen. I’m just unbelievably happy that I actually own this beautiful piece of Wheel Horse history and God willing I’ll be able to bring it to the big show in June. I truly look forward to seeing so many of you guys .

These "modern" WH's are what...30-40 years old ? A testament to their quality... I have 2 modern WH's, an 84 and 94.

I remember in the back seat of my Dads 1966 Dodge Coronet going by a home in a neighboring town a red garden tractor mowing a lawn. That was in 1970 when I was 12 and remember saying to myself that it looked like a HD quality lawnmower and was hooked. 19 years later I bought this new and with 580 hrs still own it. Best investment I have ever made.

So…..I’m struggling with self control here. Against my better judgement I went back in and looked thinking I’ll just do it and beg forgiveness. Seller changed price from 750.00 to 2500.00. Said he had 55 offers over asking! Thank you who bid this up! You saved me the aggravation of a Renault….

I've been told multiple times that starting fluid is TOO GOOD AT CLEANING. I'm not going to speculate on a percentage of actual values but it seems that a lot of people think most engine wear occurs at and just after startup. Starting fluid cleans the bore really REALLY well and certainly is capable of accelerating wear on the engine.

Greetings everyone! Here For Sale is a 1964 Wheel Horse. Was restored at some point. Has been stored away for the last 20 yrs . She started up , but was leaking gas from bowl and fuel pump. Fixed bowl leak with new gasket. Has original metal fuel pump leaking from center gasket. Other than that original key ignition is giving me some issues. Had to cross jump wires on back to get her started. I’m sure it just needs to be cleaned.

Here are the two we have. The top one is either my wifes dads or grandfathers. She's not sure. The larger one is my grandfathers. I am the youngest in our family and was born at a later age for my parents. My dad said that my grandfather did meet me as an infant but passed soon after. The only grandparent I remember in my grandmother on my moms side and she passed when I was 7 or 8. On the backside are the saw are his initials Benjamin Franklin Parks. My dad said the backwards and upside down F was something he always did. At one time I made a comment to my dad that it would be cool to do a painting on it. He said quite emphatically NO!. It would no longer be a tool if that was done. Untitled Document (vintagesaws.com) Hopefully that link works. I found it interesting

This the disston saw that my grandfather used to cut every 2x4, rafter, joist etc..when he built his post WW2 home. No electricity, house was all built by hand tools. His hammer and saw still hang in the basement as reminder and we are in the house now. I guess we are spoiled now with nail guns and cordless tools

Sorry, forgot to add a link to the "leaf plow" that I suspect will become very practical as more areas ban blowers over the next few years. This is on their gas model, but electric will use the same implements. @Pullstart could whip one of these up in a couple hours from his "materials storage". https://www.toro.com/en/professional-contractor/commercial-mowers/grandstand-multi-force-leaf-plow-78697

No oil changes but there is the inevitable battery changes. For example @SylvanLakeWH's new E141 takes 6 batteries at roughly $150 each. These batteries have about a 6yr life expectancy. Not sure what the price or life is on the lipo's

I'm not in my shop at the moment but I have one of these for my coffee maker... 240 volts will get lots of your brew hot in a hurry.

@Jeff-C175 That engine came to me on a parts tractor so I never ran it before I opened it up. It was missing the dipstick so I opened it to clean it out. The bearings and shaft defiantly had some wear. I recently bought a $100 NOS K301 that I’m on the fence about opening up and removing them.

Yes sort of!! I recently removed the balance gears from a K301. You need a good snap ring pliers with 99 degree points. The 1st gear came out Ok. The 2nd gear I just could not quite get off the shaft due to the crankshaft counter weights. I took a sharp cold chisel and gave the narrow section of the cast iron gear with a hammer. It broke and came right off The K341 has thicker counter weights so I suspect you will need to do the same

Well I couldn’t delete the danged pic thing, and I have this ongoing time warp problem around here anyway. But if you do get him down here, I’ll make him some real coffee. (Don’t tell him I said that, though!) All is well!

I really hope I'm not here for that. Since I was 10 yrs old I couldn't wait to own my own car. Bought my first one when I was 14, a '73 Malibu and had it ready to go the day I got my license. I could not imagine not owning my own car or truck.

Absolutely does. Whoever did the actual painting part of it performed nicely. I do believe that real Wheel Horse red paint in Wheel Horse spray cans is what was used on this particular tractor and where the sheet metal is smooth it did come out nice. Issue there is that as many of us know painting is actually about 90% prep work and there was very very little done before the paint was applied. When I was a kid selling du pont paint we used to call that a 20/20 paint job. From twenty feet away at 20 miles an hour it looks absolutely fantastic. And that's perfectly fine with me. In fact preferred for the most part. This will certainly be a working rig as every other one is here.

I finally replaced the broken lamp in my oven tonight. It's 1970's-ish Tappan wallmount. Small, old, but keeps chuggin'! Well, as happens to all of us, while replacing the bulb I ended up removing the entire front panel, the door, all chrome strips, etc. You guys know where this is going. I might as well clean it all up as new! Now it's getting late, I gotta cook up this pizza for the kids soon! Crap. I have the oven door out in the shop soaking the inside with oven cleaner. After an hour or two and a coupla resprays I go out to clean it up. I could have sworn in the past when cleaning the brass/glass doors in my fireplace I did it barehanded using oven cleaner. Welp, today, I found out that I didn't. I was up to the knuckles on my left hand scrubbing with a foamy, soaked paper towel. When I went in to wash my hands later, I have some pretty good chemical burns on most of my left fingers. Heh, oops. So let this be the lesson kids, DO NOT, change the light bulb in your oven.

Good Evening All, Met Randy Lindblad out of N. Grafton Mass tonight--he has been showing off his 516 H loader / cab project here and on FB. His work is amazing in person... Id tag him but haven't been able to figure out his screen name--- @Sparky can add it (please) he figured it out. Randy is a super nice guy... he wanted a set of ags on 10" rims I had and a tall chute snow blower. I wanted a C111 he recently acquired---I can't resist Briggs power!! Looks like this got a shortblock somewhere in the past. Ill try and get it fired up tomorrow. Tony

Yes it’s this B80 worker I’ve had for a few years. It worked hard this last year hauling the log splitter around, split firewood loads, grading the base for my pool, snow plowing and everything else. Just a good old tractor I can’t live without. This is when I first got it.

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The float level should be set by the book, bending it up or down will do nothing for your issue if it is in the range that will supply fuel without overflowing into the air stream. That said, it is also possible that the float is faulty.

Squonky got a brother???

I had 3 saws that came from my Grandfather. I didn't need them and didn't have a good place for them. I ended up bringing them to my son's house. Put them in a cabinet. If nothing else, I'll have a saw there if I go there and all of a sudden I need to replace a porch step or something.

Thats why I plan to run 3 as I am only pulling my train up and down the street… we’ll see how that goes… learning curve for me… will pass on thoughts as I go…

You should get more then a pop. It should start and run for at least 2 or 3 seconds.

To remove a magnetic clutch, there should be a threaded hole in the end of the shaft for the clutch. Run a bolt into that hole and it should bottom out on the crank shaft. Keep tightening the bolt, this will push the clutch off from the crank.

Good points! At $700 that you paid for batteries, with local gas prices, I could buy about 230 gallons of regular or 160 gallons of rec gas… I expect my battery costs will be similar…and this does not include electricity costs and time lost charging etc… often not discussed issues in the rush to ev’s…

Disstonian Institute.com -- Online Reference of Disston Saws Disston saws have quite a history. You can date them by their handle shape and more specifically the medallion. I've got one that was my grandfathers that's been packed away since we moved back up here from Florida. I dated it by the medallion and If I remember correctly it was pre WW2. I'm going to unpack it today.

It would be interesting to see a picture of an FEL with the bucket under something really heavy and the REAR wheels lifted but really, the key stat is what weight can it safely get off the ground and at different lift heights. The big boys all specify that stuff in their manuals.

Back on topic here Don what is your thoughts/plans for preserving her?

What am I missing here? You’ll need help stuffing that bear @ebinmaine into the trailer as well to get him down ther.

Not much time to do a whole lot tonight. I did manage to trim the grille a bit and hit the stash pile for a front bumper. That needs a bit of trimming as well.

If memory serves me correctly the blazer is a 68 and as far as I know his oldest son still has it.