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We Pee Aaaers don't take kindly to them Joisey horse thiefs.

The grandkids gave their Ranger a workout this morning.

Recently got a clevis hitch and rockshaft kit from wheelhorsepartsandmore...got it hooked up and ready to do some ground leveling for a family members backyard! Just was getting everything test fitted! Ready to go!

So I guess Pee Aaaers prefer their own thieves? I can work with that!

Got her home and couldn't have been happier. My daughter was equally as excited which was the reason I started this - yes she's young but she loves hanging out with her daddy and all things that have a motor especially mowing. Got it in a lift when it was delivered before the cash hand off no rust, no rot, new carb and fuel system, new brakes, mew belts all around, new filters and on and on really a beautiful example and a very strong running machine. The deck was rebuilt excluding the wheels which ill do when mowing season is over. There is a safety sticking somewhere. If im correct there are 3 safety's - seat, PTO, parking brake - anyone know if there is also a deck safety? and if anyone can point me to the location of a service manual that calls out the locations of these safety's I'd buy you a beer. All and all im very happy, strong mowing, strong up hills, looks fairly easy to maintain and service. She'll be used for mowing the lawn, pulling some kind of sweeper, and pulling a cart with stone, firewood etc. from time to time. No ground engagement or plowing planned for this one just some light yard work and polishing up pretty. Going to do the following except for regular maintenance and just enjoy. New Keyed ignition removal of spiked bolt head caps - replaced with something a bit more subtle Rebuild wheels on the deck Some paint and cosmetics here or there Now the REAL question.... whos got a bead on something 60's era that can be parked in the front yard for holidays with a cart holding a Christmas tree or pumpkins and hay - maybe even a lap around the neighborhood for Halloween to see all the spooky houses?!?!? Yup im hooked already

I’ve been rebuilding these old Kohlers for 40 plus years. I still do 4-5 a month in retirement. I don’t believe in wasting my money or other peoples’ money (that includes not overlooking issues in an effort to save a few bucks.) Pay me now or pay me more later. With that in mind, after looking at the thread if you came to me with this engine I would say if you wanted it done right it would need to be sleeved and the crank ground. (You are already over .020 and that chip looks like .030 won’t take it out.) While in you have the engine torn down you might as well grind the valve seats and check the guides. If they are out of spec replace and ream new ones. The rebuild will be costly. If it was a k341 I would say it’s worth it but not a k241 wheel horse spec. (However, not all Kohler blocks are the same. The pto sides on some are machined and bolt patterns are different. Even something at simple as the placement of the oil dipstick will make a difference as to if it will fit into the specific application) Therefore, for some people finding the correct block is near impossible so the old block must be used and the additional machine work is required. Unless you have an emotional attachment to that engine, I would find a good running k301 or k321 and drop it in. That will give you an addition 2-4 hp as a bonus. That’s just my opinion I’m sure there’s a lot more opinions out there and I certainly hope that helps and I won’t be canceled by the recent wave of “wokeness”. All the best.

Well that's what it may come to a hub it comes to my shop! So go to pull a new 220 volt line to the new shop AC and the power box is in the corner by the press and I notice this hub for a 953 sitting on it. Now I got some tractors sitting in pieces in the shop but I don't recollect a 953 being one of them. Ok whats this for or better yets whose i?!?? After much It finally dawns on me that @953 nut gives me a bag of crap at the BS to put a new key way in! Well duh maybe that's why it was sittin on the press. Never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer! You'll be happy to know Richard I sat down right then and there and giterdone! I only had it what since what June? Took a whooping 5 minutes! Sides it beat climbing in a very hot attic and rolling in fibergla$s. Goes to show how long I seen this corner of the shop. Gotta blame it on @Achto and all his stupid tractor shows just about every weekend. Yah my garage starting to look like his! Hope I didn't set your project back by years Dick! Came out good tho Richard. I put the new keyway in line with the back set screw figurin a guy could put a new set screw in line over the back one. Hub was pretty messed up too....awful hard on the equipment ain't we Mr. Schmidt ?!?!? 'pose you gonna tell us you got it that way! Let me know if you want that set crew put in ...I'll get at it next year.... Now for that wiring..... nawwww it's Miller time!

Found this on Saturday. Picking it up tomorrow.

I did a heck of a lot today. Tore down the transmission on the 607 to clean and repair. Took apart, cleaned, and reassembled the diff. New bearings are required as well as new seals/gaskets. Since the rear wheels were already off I painted the rims to make them look good and to prevent them from rusting.

not been on here in some time things are going well i have been doing a cam swap on my 1981 corvette here is some pics before and after and it got a set of hooker super comp hooker header side pipes

What a grotesque general misrepresentation! That’s no way to depict the fine citizens of this great commonwealth. Some of us prefer beer, ya know!

Very nice! I can use some grand kids. Made me 3 boys but they have to get started - getting tired of waiting. In WH news, I pulled the guide wheels, not original WH, off the 42" SD and they fell apart in my hands. I've got a new set for the 48" so put the oldies, with fresh green Lucas grease, on the 42 and it was appreciated. Painted some 48" brackets with Sunrise Red out in the driveway so that brought the rain, of course. End of a good day.

Seller had two snow blowers. Close to each other but slightly different. Mounting mechanism looks identical tho. Will post good pictures when I get them home. Oh. Was $100 for the pair 😁

I too installed a Wheel Horse Parts and More receiver; on this less than auspicious 50-year anniversary of a certain unhitching.

I'm frum Joisey and I STILL think that's funny! <-- Mah Horse theivin' costume!

I think that the previous, previous owner is from that area. I'm trying to track him down for a little more back-story.

I saw those Kevlar sleeves in use by brother this past weekend , they are well worth the cost. Got to order me a pair.

Congrats on the score! Way to go raising your daughter up around classic machinery too! These kids will cherish garden tractor time more than we know it!

basically the same UniDrive transmission but with a low range is known for handling up to 20 hp in stock form… 13 will be just fine.

My BIL is leading the points at a dirt track up north on the lakeshore this season, his first year in their new dirt late model. We were able to watch him (at Winston Speedway) on Friday night. He swept the night with a heat and feature win. Basically, so long as he starts every heat and feature the next two weeks, he’s secured the championship. Little Maitlynn is daddy’s biggest fan! She loves racing, has turned many laps herself in daddy’s lap when iRacing was the only means of competing during COVID shutdowns.

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Congrats! My first Wheel Horse was a 1987 310-8, and I still have it 25 years later! I use it regularly, and it the most dependable tractor that I have. We don't typically get enough snow here for a snowblower, but it has cut grass with a 36, 37, 42, and even grunted for two hours a couple times with a 48 inch deck. It has tilled heavy red clay with no problems, and dozered a many driveway. It's a good machine, and should last a long time!

Dropped the transmission out of the 607 to clean tomorrow. Put is some shelves so I have more room to work.

Spent just a couple hours pulling parts from bad engine and putting them on the good engine. Hope it is going to run as well as it is looking.

Aren’t brakes on these even worse in reverse? That must have added to the issue as well.

Even with the brakes working they leave a lot do be desired. Know your tractors limitations. You see posts all the time. "Look how much my Wheel Horse can pull!" Yeah what about stopping.

absolutley!

Then, after over 15 years of not being in a full size car but a couple practice laps before Jada was born, Taylor was offered a ride in the VROA series at Berlin Raceway. This was her first ever race in a full size car on asphalt. In high school and just after, she owned, maintained and raced her own hobby stock V8 car on dirt. We didn’t expect a podium finish, but were just looking for good clean laps. In two 10 minute practice sessions, she went from a 23 second lap down to a low 19 second lap. The car owner told me after the race that it took him 4 or 5 years to get into the 19’s! We were able to celebrate in the winner’s circle as her dad in the 31 took the race. Fun fact though, she finished better in her heat than he did! His gas cap was loose and was black flagged after a lap or two I couldn’t be prouder of my wife. She’s a third generation racer who really gives the boys a run for their money!

Put the new hitch to work hauling firewood:

I bought this deck last year for $150 and set it aside with several other decks we have in a shed. I looked at it this am and said man this is the nicest deck I own! So I hauled it home and going to put on my 1996 314 hydro ! We will see how she mows tomorrow!

I got that down pat Paul. I have a set of different length rods that I use for a cheater extension. so the apron stays put. This one threw me abit 'cause of the extra hub length.

@aemsee that blower deal is like buy one and get one free ! if you get them, first thing i would do , is to spray them down with your favorite aerosol lubricant , why ? that oil will feed the paint and stop the grungy rust , that auger looks surprisingly good. With no impact bends , any bend can be taken out with a pair of large adjustable wrenches , working it opposed directions on the same bend area, just the very edge of the bend. Another thing to check is the auger gear chain drive , front of blower , right side. adjustment for chain, behind angle wing bottom edge area. all related movement points should move with ease and be lubricated , that will give you something to work on .the auger should easily spin up with a pull on the drive belt. just giving some maintenance detail , so you realize ,this requires work to get this done. I never let my drive chain run without , chain and cable , lubricant . let me know , pete

Atta boy! Get ‘em before someone else does! there is a “hauling help” section if it helps. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/forum/15-haulin-help/

Great thread, guys!

Me too, especially a capella. This lament was always one of my favs by Tennessee Ernie Ford. Excellent voicing and the use of the tools as "instruments" adds a lot to the rendition. Of course the video is lip synched (you need very erect posture to get that deep and the different vocal tracks were carefully tweaked to get the perfect synchronization) but what a great piece! Thanks for posting it. (Disclosure: I sang bass in my college chorus and was always jealous that the tenors and baritones got nearly all of the cool melody parts. This fellow's got a range at least an octave above and three or four notes below where I could go. D**n!)

Saaawwwweeeetttt! Was wondering about those pike nuts! Wonder what the PO had in mind with those..... was he into Harleys by any chance!?!?!? Maybe using them for a boot cleaner didn't want to get the floorboards dirty?!?!? Looks like a trip hazard to me! Hit up CL ... FB marketplace if yer a booker ... keep an eye on classifieds here. ... never know what pops up. Guaranteed that girl is gonna want tub rides so best get looking for one of those too! Ain't that right Sylvia ? @SylvanLakeWH Right here Joe...every manual you will need. Upper right hand corner in the search block type in the model (should be on a sticker under the seat) select files and hit the search. Be amazed at all the files in there Downloads - RedSquare Wheel Horse Forum Ya get lost use your shoutout. I like Busch Lite..

Thanks @richmondred01 I was hoping you would chime in with your opinion on it. That's kind of what I was thinking. This isn't my main user so I can afford to be patient for a good used engine to come up. I see deals pop up in the $100-200 range around here for non running garden tractors that should yield a kohler with good compression at some point. I may just wait out the right deal... thanks again. I appreciate your input sir!

Massey Ferguson 1655 with 54" deck by PTO shaft thru gear box driving PLASTIC splined/cogged pulleys - (the blades have to be timed) The gear driven off the gear box is a double with top half being driven by gear shaft and to drive the left blade, the bottom half is to drive the middle blade and the right blade.... What this is leading up to is that middle pulley driven by the gear box with a splined shaft .... well just picture running up on that hidden root or ???? Those splines dont stand a chance and will be shucked like an ear of corn! Couple wks ago I shucked my 3rd one and there aint NO more to be had -- they are more scarce than horse parts for sure! Well, I really like that dang tractor (sorry horses, but I do!) and I set out to make a pulley.... Several yrs ago I got into green sand casting, but lost interest and put the stuff away (a herd of horses caught my eye) So I go dig all of it out and proceed to try and cast an aluminum pulley. The splines were the hang up, I have cut/made many a gear but had never learned, or seen, splines made .... so, having an extra shaft - with the splines - I decided to cast around it and do the cogs on the mill, took 4 castings re-learning how to do it. (see pic of one failure coming out of sand with spindle in it) Leaving spindle in to use in mounting it on the mill -- Had a HECK of a time cutting the cogs with right spacing/depth/diameter/etc. Finally hit it today, YEAH! OK how did I get the spindle out of the casting you say?? When I first read about it, they were saying to use the black smoke from a candle covering the surface so it wouldnt stick, since I had a spray can of graphite, I coated it well with it and then added parting dust to that. Its still pretty stuck in the casting but a BFH and many 'smacks' itll come out leaving a direct copy of the splines. Tommorow I'll have to figure how to mate my one good plastic pulley to the casting to get the 'double' pulley - that should be a breeze after the trial of casting. In the pic is one of the plastic pulleys with the splines stripped out and the finished aluminum one with the spindle I used near. These things have to be a labor of love, I must have spent some 50-60 hours on it. But, I dont golf, fish, hunt, etc, and Im retired and .... well I dont care how long it took!!

ahhh… between my life insurance policy for obvious reasons and a propane truck, I could easily be replaced!

A bit more info on the rear axles. They are fixed from steering using short fixed tie rods (see 2nd pic). I tried other methods, like connecting the steering arms all together, but there was too much slop. The axles also do not pivot, only the front steering axle pivots. The non-pivoting rear axles prevents the deck load from pitching side to side. Being able to pivot but with no real suspension there is too much floppiness.The pivot restraint was made by adding blocks under the existing axle bump stop pads.

How much oil was in the engine? How many hours was the engine run following the rebuild? With everything else being well oiled and that much aluminum build-up on the crank it looks like it wasn't getting enough oil to the crank. Wonder if the oil hole on the crank was placed away from the cam? With the block already being +20 needing to be sleeved and the crank being questionable I would start looking for a replacement engine, You will end up being north of $ 450 to fix this one.

Got the heads done, then realized the crank was completely different. Luckily I found another one. I'm guessing the .425 longer PTO journal adds support since there is no bearing in the vertical models, and because they typically have pretty big side loads. Of course, I'm purely guessing. Although both cranks mic out the same (journal diameter, stroke, etc) there is about 600 hours on the longer one. Anyway- the engine is getting closer to complete. Valves lapped and set. Should all be buttoned up this week.

Crap I was hoping the piston was std. Or even just 10 over. I doubt goin to 30 is gonna take that gouge out. The crank definitely has to get ground and the only hope for saving it is to find out if it's been ground before and and can get it to 20 under. Might as well pull the crank it's not gonna go anywhere in that condition. By chance can you piece the rod together enough to get some numbers off it? That might help. Or try getting the rod remants off for a rough measure. I know nothing about sleeving Squonky but guessing cost might get too prohibitiv for Outdoor? Being 241 heavy I wouldn't consider it. Be interesting what master builder Richmond or Old Red has to say about it. PO definitely ran the poor thing short on oil. My stepson ran a 301 short on oil once and ended up with the same mess you have less the cylinder marks. 10 over & 10 under & $300 she now purrs like a kitten. I'm just not seeing that in your future.... BTW Outdoor on a good note excellent pics.

No damage to the tractor or lasting damage to me other then sore for a few weeks. felt like a idiot for not having the brakes working proper. I may have been able to ride it out but I thought the machine was going over. Always a good PSA for safety only takes a second and could alter or end your life.

I hate to say you are lucky, but it could have been a lot worse. Only the young can bruise like that and live to tell about it.

Looks a little more finished off with front bumper mounted now

I had a 414-8 follow me home!! I am going to temporally transplant the engine in my sons pulling tractor then that will give me time to rebuild his engine. I don’t know what I’m going to do with this tractor after… my son says we don’t have this model tractor yet.

Kind of a side view Sunday this am! I washed up my old Wheel Horse dump cart and put in on my 314 hydro . Took the 314-8 out to clean off the mower deck from yesterday’s mowing job! A good looking and working pair of 314’s! *****. I had to post something with my 50th Anniversary tractor on page 500! *****

Don't get me wrong.I love my Wheel Horse tractors,but if you're looking for something with a front end loader,3 point hitch and rear PTO,I'd look around for a 4 wheel drive compact farm tractor.probably with a diesel engine.While powerful and dependable plus fairly easy to work on,These Horses DO have their limitations.I don't want to offend anyone here.Just my 2 cents worth.Like I said......I still love my Wheel Horse tractors and use the heck out of them.