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I have not been on the site for a long while. I have been busy with a few other projects. The garage and driveway are now full. Pretty much have the 71 C20 ready to go. Still have the line lock to install. The 53 Buick is all done, except for me installing the NOS grill. It wont be toothless any more.

Well, greetings from Germany to this fantastic community. Been reading along here for a while now. This site is such a great resource. I'm not new to Wheel Horses - in fact, I now own my grandpa's '76 C-120 8-speed (first hand), that I used to love playing with as a child (some 40ish years ago). Fun fact: at age 7, I onced parked the C-120 right inbetween the tracks of a railroad here in Germany, as I thought the C-120 would perfectly fit width-wise. However, stalled the engine, train approached, train stopped, conductor helped me push the tractor off the tracks and I brought it back home safe. All these years later, the tractor still runs smooth and never had any major issues, just occassional hickups. The C-120 was actually assembled at the former plant in Belgium... hope this doesn't make it a 'faux-horse'. Btw. got a B-111 sitting here as well, but it doesn't even compare to the C-120.

Rodney Burger and I are set up on Row 63 spots 27 thru 30 at Florida Flywheelers through Saturday of this week. Stop by and visit if you are at this swap meet and show!

Well, I had about 10 min to play yesterday. I pulled the shifter from the 856 and pecked on the shift rails. Put the shifter back in and pecked it a little as I applied pressure to it and she now shifts into all gears! Might be a pretty good find! @pullstart, I’m not going to talk about price too much, just happy to have saved another! The yard does jack up the price per pound a little to make something for saving them though. I’ll still gladly pay them to keep it from going to the crusher!

Thanks Achto! And yes, the C-120 has always been taken care of and even had its own dedicated garage. Everything but the starter and seat is still 100% original. Thought about restoring the tractor w/ new paint job and all, but figured I would destroy its own unique character. I'll add some new grip tape to the foot rests and just leave the rest like it is! I did rebuild the deck recently though.

Always glad to hear of another that has stayed in the same family and is being loved.

Yeah man! you might recognize this background...

from Don't worry about the C-120 being Built in Belgium. So were my '78 C-121 and '79 C-81.

The best dealer in the area is Battles Buick-GMC, one town away in Bourne Ma. If you want an independent, MR T's Auto Repair is one town away the other way in Mashpee , Ma. Either one is excellent. If you have triple A or some other towing service go up over the bridge to Buzzards Bay and see Tony at Bay Village Auto, smaller independent that does fair and honest work. Mike B

Spare bar talk.... If you ever head to the woods to cut a tree down, or to cut up a tree that has fallen, there is a ton of tension in the tree! If you ever hang up a saw, it’s wise to have a spare bar and chain just for that reason alone. Simply unbolt the chainsaw from the bar, install the new bar and chain, cut the tree from the other side to release the tension, remove stuck parts.

Update on my EZ Rake. Sorry I should have taken more pictures. After welding the bracketry, I took it for a test run and it worked great! Next I completely disassembled the entire unit, sandblasted the deck/shell and belt guard. Everything else was glass beaded down to bare metal. I then primed all the components with rustoleum clean metal primer. Next I painted everything that used to be white, Rustoleum sunrise red. I found out these came in both white or red and I couldn’t find the proper off white color so I went with red to match my C-161. I’m now ready for reassembly.

Glad it worked out !!!!! Told you they were nice people at Battles !!!! Mike B

Hey how did you get that comprising picture of me 😆 Eric j

Can 8 + 3 = 6??? short answer is NO!! 1. All 6 speeds are born as 10 pinion Limited Slip differentials. The axles are different lengths and 1 1/8" diameter. 2. All 3 speeds are 1" axles...except the Heavy Duty Bevel Gear Differentials...no help at all if you want any pinions, much less 10 pinions. 3. You can take an 8 speed and make it a 6 speed. You can take a 6 speed and make it an 8 speed. You need to have the service bulletin to see what it takes. The 2 piece mushroom gear is part of it. 4. If you take the IPL's for say the 702 and the IPL's for say a C-120 and compare the part numbers, you will see that really not to many parts are the same number and are not inter-changeable. 5. The case halves are not even close for what I think you are trying to do. Sure the gasket is a #3912 and the same in all the manual transmissions, but the inside of the right side case is poured different for the hi/low mechanism. The hi/low mechanism changes the gear ratios of the cluster gear. Just like a 15 speed road ranger in a cab over truck...you have 5 gears forward and 3 ranges so you keep shifting the same pattern 3 times. 6. SO...... 8 + 3 = 11 it always will. 7. Stop drinking Black Label...nothing good ever came of it.

The patent is owned by Samuel Johnston but it was manufactured by Peter Lowentraut. They were known for their manufacturing of all kinds of universal tools which that one sort of is. That is a pretty old early tool since they would only keep the patent date on their tools for about 12 years after patent was granted.So its then from about 1816. They manufactured also ice skates. Their building burned down in 1911 I believe.That one is a great find probably worth much more than everything else together.Have not come across one in many years. Great sword set. Good for escargot. .

New engine on a 9 year old vehicle....WOW! Lucky break kinda

When my mates youngest son used to give me lip, I'd chase him with them. He's in his late 40s now with kids. Needless to say I never caught him.

Hey @mooxster, Awesome story of you and the Horse! Looking forward to seeing more updates on your adventures with the noble steed We have a “German Kid” (exchange student) who we met 6 years ago and have chased her across the world 4 times now. She’s from Duisburg and we last visited in late September (Oktoberfest!). Here’s my Jil one of her last visits here riding my 502 “Putt Putt”

I was not able to find any markings on the C clamps. The brace is marked; Territories for sale by S.J. Johnston Leesburg Va. P. Lowentraut Newark N.J. Patent DEC 4 1804 The spiral drill/driver is marked; A.H. Reid DEC. 12. 1882 The plastic handle chisel is marked; Craftsman vanadium USA BP The small wood handle chisel is marked; SANDVIK SWEDEN Also found this pressure guage marked; Schrader Balloon Tire Guage pat'd Mar. 28. 1916 The hor d'ouvres sword set is not marked. Mrs. K has claimed this set.

My thoughts exactly. He said Battles Buick-GMC told him he is getting a new engine under warranty because it's a recall. All he needs to do is rent a car and pay the towing himself. Today is his birthday so I told him happy birthday you got a new engine LOL

Gueten Tag & Welcome to Red Square Tell me about the B-111...does it have the Foote Transmission?? Good story about the train...around me, the train would not be able to stop in time.

A little chew juice running out of it's mouth and the missing teeth would look right at home. Nice looking vehicles!

Welcome. Nice tractor and what I consider my favorite size WH. Glad the train stopped. You and that tractor would not have looked good riding around Germany on the front of a Locomotive.

There is almost nothing worse, then trying to get a #1533 out of the case without hurting it. In this case, it is going to be a piece of cake. Open up the broken case transmission, take the broken half and a 4" grinder...and cut the case away from the bearing. Boom-sha-ka-la-ka!! The thing about these bearings is the retainer keeping the bearing together is very thin, spring like metal. Obviously, a bearing puller is the best way to go. The brass punch is the next best, but I would also try to heat the casting around the bearing. If you use the punch method, make sure you are just tapping and attack the bearing with one tap while working around the bearing in thirds. I have had success with an air chisel and sometimes they just pop out.

My L-107 Lawn ranger has operated with out a fuel issue for 53 years. That there gravity thing is pretty reliable.

So last night I had a dream about a wheel horse go figure I love wheel horse tractors and love off roading and my kids so I gave up full size rig wheeling family and cost. But why should my kids suffer! So my dream last night was taking the 312-8 in very rough body shape apart turn the rear trans sideways to create a 4x4 trans and pull the pulley and adapte a cub cadet driveshaft clutch to the kholer then use Suzuki axles and build a chassis around it. So was it a dream or could it be reality? What's your thoughts. Quarter elliptic suspension and 3 point hitch top links for link arms keep it tractor and of course red

Here are some things that might help. I searched our manuals section for your GT-1642 (I think that’s what you have described!)

Welcome to the forum. Here is what we have on the A1-164202. Look through them all because with this type of link they are mixed up. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?&q=a1-164202&type=downloads_file&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy Garry

So if I put the 8” wheels on and use spindles from tractor that had those then all should be good. Thanks guys

I agree! BTW. I spy a grease nipple. So must have plain bushes in the hubs.

I never use the flat file (that is referred to above @pullstart about the rakers) by the time I get there the chain is usually done for me... Yes there is marks on on the teeth of the of the chain (Oregon) that 1) shows the appropriate angle you should try to follow while filing and 2) like Eric said max wear as the slot gets larger as you file you may also notice that the file cuts the drag links as well as the tooth this is from excessive down pressure on the file it all takes time and practice.

Pads cemented into place this morning so I can put the steel lintel in later today. Pouring with rain so good to be indoors again. I will be glad when I can stand up straight again.

I seen people make those articulating tractors by turning the transmissions so I thought why not my worry is it needs to be fully lock trans how can i check the transmission will turn both outputs all the time? I have a 59rj 60 suburban a 1992 416h and this beat up 312-8 plus other brands i do have issues but dont we all that's why were here ha

I say go for it dude... many things were accomplished in this world by a dream.... It's already been done before so totally possibly. One of our over the pond brethren @meadowfieldbuilt a rig and he's got vids of it crawling over stone fences!

You will have to bring the whatzits to the BS for show and tell.

Thanks pullstart. All my family were in mining so in the dim and distant past who knows? I will post a new thread on the subject. Back to the build.... Cut out the slot for the steel angle and will be cementing it in place tomorrow with any luck.

You got it Kevin. All works out pretty much the same. Joe and I joke that we’re bearded brothers from another mother. His son, Clay, and Emory are good buddies as well. It’s just nice to see him and his son getting to enjoy stuff like this together. This hobby is as much or more about friendships as the tractors!

All I know is Lou Costello taught me 13 x 7 = 28. This discussion would be a good topic for the Tailgate of Knowledge.

You can also get those brass washers from the grey drawers of Hillman parts at you local hardware store.

I'm in Peru Ma, no people that are good with GM

I'm originally from north central Massachusetts but of course leaving Maine now. Maybe if you could get a narrowed down location you could reach out to whoever is in that immediate area...

Assume you want to replace it with a new one. Drive the needle bearing out Then I use a long brass drift pin and drive the 1533 in.

I finally got the steering column apart. The lower roll pins, and everything else around there, were absolutely COVERED in grease, like someone put grease in a super soaker and tried hitting the grease zerks from 15 feet away. The pins were also mushroomed, which didn't help. The chrome is in good shape for being almost 57 years old. Frame and dash cleaned up okay. The frame has a lot of bad pitting, and we don't have a working welder, so it's just getting body filler in the pitting. Worst place is under the engine where all the water sat. It's too bad they actually sanded the paint off the outside of the hood and the frame is so pitted, I would've loved to keep the patina this thing has.

another option is buy a bottle of "future floor wax", it's a high gloss liquid acrylic. alot of hobby plastic car and airplane builders use it as a cheap high gloss clear coat. it works really well on plastic. works on car headlights too

that precision, variable, percussion tool reminds me of the stuff my dad had. seems like everything he had with a wooden handle had tape.

I can't comment on the transmission question but that plug looks like it might be running just a leeeettle bit rich.

I’m not so sure we’ve met, so.. Hi, I’m Pullstart/Kevin! back to !! I have all kinds of fun with my wife and daughters on the tractors, my now 10 year old even bought herself her own 1076 in March! Most the stuff I work on gets customized from mild to wild and my kids have been shop helpers for pretty much their whole lives. I can’t wait to see your “clean up” work!