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On Friday, I decided to move the B-100 (worker) from it's summer home (behind the shed) to it's winter home (beside the garage). First thing that I found was a dead battery. Okay, this battery had a date of May 2006, so I wasn't too upset when I had to get a new one. But in checking voltages, my meter said that the charging system was putting out 17.5 volts DC. Hmm... We all know from past electrical discussions that a poor ground on the regulator/rectifier can cause over voltage, so I removed the leads and checked the stator voltage. Good 40 volts AC. Then I cleaned the R/R mounts, made sure that I had a good ground. Tried checking voltages again, and still had the same 17.5 VDC. So, good AC voltage from stator, too high a DC voltage from the regulator/rectifier. Conclusion? Bad regulator/rectifier. So I go rummaging through my collection of R/R's to find one that didn't have too many spider nests in it, cleaned it up, installed it, and...still 17.5 volts. Now I am scratching my head. So let's go back to the beginning. Stator voltage - 38 to 44 volts AC depending on RPM - check. Good grounds around - check. Bad regulator/rectifier - maybe Pulled out another R/R and still the same 17.5 VDC. Okay, this calls for some serious thinking. So I sit down with hot cup of coffee and it comes to me. Check your meter. Took my meter over to a known good battery and it read 16.5. Conclusion? BAD METER in the DC mode. Pulled out my back-up meter and VOILÀ, 12.5 VDC not running, and 13.8 charging. Moral of this story...don't jump to conclusions when it comes to electrical issues.

You're right Mike, I only had 1 as of 3 months ago. Actually I started this looking for 2 others, one for a snow blower and one for a blade to do the lot and drive at the shop. Then I learned about all the attachments and how they could be very useful to me, or others including my customers who always try to buy mine. The more I learned and saw, some sort of obsession set in, I can't explain it. I really am addicted to I'm sure a lot of it also is that all I have done is work, eat, and sleep most of my life and now I have finally found something that I really enjoy. I also really enjoy my time here on the board as well, whether it be trying to help or just having fun. The great people here make it even better and I can't wait till we get things in order enough to start going to some shows! Then there's also the OCD. I've fixed and sold a few already, also many of these will be restored and sold as soon as the snow hits with a blade or blower. Then next spring with a deck or tiller or whatever someone wants. Won't make a lot of money but it's sure a lot of fun.

If by some chance with my Schedule, and I forget or miss picking games for whatever reason, I am Appointing Dino Executor of my picks, in my absence. I hope he doesn't pick MICHIGAN. Signed THE DUKE Go Hawkeyes

I thought I would post the clean up of the 502 I got at the mid mo meet and greet its been a while sense I've had a thread about what I've been working on. Here's what I have the belt guard says its a 502 but I think its a 552 it has the battery box and the HH55 looks original and it ran but the valves are shot and the seats are very pitted someone reground the valves but did not recut the seats so it would run but wouldn't pull its self when I tried to ride it around the yard I cleaned it up with sos pads and pulled the motor I'm not going to paint it I like the old pinta here's sum pics

Absolutely! Geno didn't know it had been oversold, only the seller did. (Buncha bums on CL sometimes, this is not the first time this has happened to me!). I was about an hour into a two hour drive to go get it and thats when I got the "my wife sold it" text. I just knew it was near Geno somewhere and I figured that he probably gobbled it up seeing his purchase spree lately! Geno's a good guy and is keeping a lookout for me . That tractor (not the one in his pictures, the second one I went after) was quite a deal! And luckily the guys at Sunbelt are standup characters and gave me my money back on the trailer rental without me even asking for it! (The trailer I normally use can't hold a 60" deck)

thats great you finally got it working. onan engine electrical can be tiresome and frustrating to work out whats wrong sometimes...... so, just to make sure here, you went through all this drama and aggravation pulling flywheel and other engine components, bought a new ignition module, removed and replaced various ignition components etc. etc. because of a loose wiring connection? you've probably learned a lot more about your tractors engine and how the ignition system and associated components work so all of this wasn't a waste of time, i just think you could have avoided much of the frustration that you encountered by thoroughly checking out the electrical harness to begin with. its still not clear if you discovered any of the ignition components were to blame for your problems, thats one of the problems when replacing parts with out testing. maybe you could clear that up by testing anything you replaced ( you did the module already by replacing the new with old and it worked). the coil and other ignition components could be tested to see if they were the issue. As you found out, parts can only be reliably tested by fixing or bypassing bad electrical issues on a engine or tractor harness first. (that was the idea behind the jumper wire to the coil, bypassing the bad connection/problem area that hadn't been diagnosed yet) hopefully, the problem is fixed now.

Picked up some wheel horse brochures! What do you guys think?

Thanks Martin. I've been looking into this a little bit and Cabot is what I've been seeing a lot of recommendations for. The other popular option appears to be a 50/50 mix of used motor oil and something to thin it with so it will soak in and dry. Via Tapatalk 4

These things are terribly addictive!

Don't have to worry about AJ, he's cool.

Oh yes, I know.. I'm just picking on Geno.. We have had several phone conversations and e-mails back and forth.. Its all in fun, he knows that! [emoji2] [emoji6] I'm going to edit that post to avoid confusion to the community.[emoji6]

51 Case DC this weekend. Good day with my dad.

No problemo for a car lift for sure. It was 3 trucks and the slab came out really nice. Nice pitch etc. Funny thing is the concrete contractor had his eye on the horses.... wanted to know if I had any for sale. He liked how smooth the 520 with the plow on it ran.

I think you have finally gone off the deep end. The big problem I found with having that many tractors is time! Even if they all ran and operated perfect there just isn't enough time to enjoy all of them. That's why I sold off the majority of mine. Couldn't see owning them if I wasn't gonna use or enjoy them.

Too bad you can't watch Terry Bradshaw pick these games. You could pick the exact opposite of him and at least bat .750!

Jason, its funny you ask because i was looking at the deck this past weekend while loading and unloading for the mid mo meet and greet. i think its held up well for the amount of effort i put in and how weathered it already was before staining it. there are a few areas around knots etc where the harder wood grain didn't let the stain soak as much. the trailer gets used every few weeks or so for hauling either tractors or some construction materials etc. not as much as some people here use them hoarding tractors down south, but it does get used. there are a few areas where the wood is damaged a little and it has lost its color, it probably could do with another coat, that will depend on what time i have before winter. as far as storage goes, i think it spent a week inside last winter, the rest of the time I've had it (15 months now) its spent its time outside. it gets almost full sun in the middle of summer and the brunt of our winters. i think for a horizontal surface (not like a fence where moisture runs off) its done fairly well...... heres some pics that should help for the rest of what you asked......

My first name is Ray , and i have wheelhorses...so after a few days of pondering ,i came up with rayshorses.

The issue was never me buying it out from under anyone Nick, glad you brought that up. He said his wife sold it supposedly not knowing that it was already sold. I just called Brandon and found out what happened. He sold it to both of us last night (and maybe even someone else who knows). I think the guy was thinking like some do when things are on CL, who knows if anyone will even show up. I told him I would be there early this morning cause he was only 20 minutes away and I wanted to get it before the shop opened. If I knew Brandon or anyone else had said they were coming to get it I would have told him like many others, if they don't show up call me. I don't do that to people. One thing I know for sure, his wife didn't sell it to me, he did.

If we are all honest, that handle fits the whole bunch of us !!!

The thing that makes this forum so great is the total experience of the membership and their willingness to stay with a problem until it has been solved. There are very few who claim to be total experts on all problems but up here you will always find someone who is knowledgeable with your particular problem. Factor in the friendliness of the entire group and you can see why no one goes away with an unsolved problem. As for the problems of the Onan, I submit that if folks would only follow the recommended maintenance procedures, such as valve adjustment and de-carbon every 500 hours, and especially cleaning under the engine shrouds so air can flow, these engines would last a lifetime.

Yes even doctors make mistakes. That is why our fees are so high. We need to carry extra insurance called " Medical malpractice". Check to see if you policy has a "dumazz" rider, if not get it added.

Glad you are not near Florida....... hard enough finding them and the parts for them. Although my dad managed to round up quite a few. Ill have to put a camo net over them so you can't see them with Google maps, lol. Glad to see at least someone is getting them and doing something with them. Nice score!.

Well the wrench is turning the right direction now

Hi All, Just wanted to send a couple photos of the 520-8 tilling the Garden today. Tractor and tiller did a great job, for the exception of the hitch retainer opening and allowing the tiller to come out of the bracket. I may drill and pin it to keep it closed. Well here's the pics. Take care Mike

So Geno, I gotta ask?? What's your "Grand plan"? I thought I saw you post awhile back that you had had one WH for many years and just a few months ago decided to collect. So here we are a few months later and you keep haulin em in....at an incredible rate! Are you gearing up a long winter of restoring? Or are you planning on flipping a few? Maybe start a WH parts yard like Kelly has? Or are you just shooting for a massive herd? I'm just curious what, if any, your WH goal is. Mike.......

Since I need to wait for the foot pedal from Matt, I decided to put a few decals on the old girl. I am going to get an Exacto knife tomorrow to make good clean cuts for the holes. I can't do the hood yet as I need to wait for the paint to dry and then paint the black. But I am liking what I see so far. I really like what Terry did on the decal for the gage plate. Top line says Restored by Nick Caprinolo. Nice touch and much appreciated. He does an outstanding job on these decals. I am glad I picked the Patriotic decals for this one.

got a little red on it now. deck was weathered from sitting on the trailer lot for 4 months or so. waxed the powdercoat and stained the lumber on the deck a nice redwood color......just need to load it with tractors and go traveling.....

I have been singing the praises of a Napa 1410 Hydro filter for a couple of years. I am not badmouthing OEM Toro, but not all of the members here have a Toro dealer nearby. Plus not all dealers (including mine) stock the Toro filter. It gives members another option and there will be no need to hesitate to buy a Napa (Wix) filter. My local Napa stocks the 1410 or can get it within hours if needed as opposed to over a week from the dealer. I cut open the Toro once. Wish I had pics.If I remember right the Toro had less pleats and a piece of tin (Like Fram) as opposed to the real spring in the Napa 1410. If another member removes a Toro filter maybe they can cut it open and post pics. If I ever run across another one I'll cut it open and post them here.

That word is used in my shop real often.Trouble is I am the only one there. Marvin

Thicker concrete means, Car Lift!!!!

Look like a great tractor Geno! Definitely have some power plant issues to work on.[emoji6]

They sure did !! We were 2-3 inches low on the gravel so a few bucks more and now I have a 6-8" slab instead of a 4" ....

Ever hear, back in the day...what they did to Horse rustlers? Typically, they were found swingin' with a short rope.

Hi Ken--the block was full of REAL green prestone.... which is A) old school way of winterizing marine engines and a real No-No as most people simply back the boat into the water the first fire off in spring and there goes the real anti-freeze into the lake/river/ocean... I drained it prior to firing it off and the H20 impeller was already swapped.... The carb will be addressed. The 25' boat I'm putting together is going to be sold.... I don't like sedan cruisers (everybody else seems to so that's good for sales) . The basic and quick story---I bought a 1984 Bayliner Cierra flybridge for some parts and the outdrive---this is the boat this engine came out of. The boat is being stripped of all its stainless, copper, brass, lights, controls etc.. and then is being shredded by the big fiberglass eating machine for $200.... the boat is shot sorry to say. I got everything I wanted and the motor was 100% bonus and for what I paid its a complete home run. 2 months after buying the above boat I found a 1986 Bayliner Cierra 25' Sedan Bridge and bought that because it had a $3500 Volvo Duo Prop drive... I wanted that drive BAD for my 32' Bayliner. I paid almost nothing for this rig, its clean and nicely laid out.... it came with a remanufactured 350 Chevy. So I pulled that out and its for sale to someone that needs an engine---that should bring in $3000 full dress and ready to run. The 305 from the above boat is going back in and it will be for sale for $5500 in the spring. A lot of wrench turning but that's what I enjoy and I should make a decent profit after working out all the details with the guy that lets me use his shop etc... we are basically partners on the whole deal. So... I get a Duo Prop drive on my 32 footer which is suppose to increase my MPG by about 15% basically for turning the wrenches plus some spending cash in my pocket. Not a bad score in my book.... so far I have about 30 hours of labor into the whole process... the Duo Prop drives really are the best ever.... read up on them via google Tony Heres a pic of my Bayliner with my kids on board in Wethersfield Cove and another of the Bayliner I'm putting together on the trailer....

I really don't know for sure but my sister out west sold a seat Much like that for BIG moola .i hope my wife don't notice me drooling over that sweet thing!!

Just be warned folks. If you're driving home with a tractor in your mirror there's a good chance Geno will be right behind your trailer. What ever you do DON'T STOP!!

geno i just picked up 2 p220 onan engines both with a bad valve seat. i have had 2 other onans fix in the past at napa. there is 1 napa near me that has a machine shop, they order an over sized seat, machine it down for clearance and heat the block and freeze the seat and slip them together. it only cost about $ 100.00. so they can be saved eric j

I don't know why a loose valve seat can't be fixed. A good machine shop should be able to fix that. How about knurling the shaft and putting it back in or getting something oversize. I fixed a Kohler by putting the seat back in and then using a center punch all around the edge. How about JB Weld? If you can't fixe it, send it to me. A little American Ingenuity should do the trick. I have a 520, I got last month, sitting in the shop with what the PO said was a frozen engine. someone suggested that it could be a valve seat. I don't know why they thought that but if it is I will do my best to find a solution. I bet that if you knurl the shaft and use JB Weld and then tap it with the center punch, that combination will hold it till the second coming of you know who.

I don't think Gino would buy from under another member, but who really knows when someone has a true addiction. Add to that the fact that the entire continental USA is part of Gino's purchase area. That makes anything possible.

Some more than others.

is that another 520?

you can buy ethanol free small engine fuel at the hardware store for 6 or 7$ a quart or spend $5 a gallon at the marina , also check out leaded aviation fuel at $7 to 10 a gallon. If you are using a lot of fuel over a short period of time use ethanol added fuel but when you are done running the engine shot the fuel off and run the carb dry or drain the ethanol fuel from the tank and run a splash of real gas thru it and then run the carb dry. for my lawn stuff I just pay the premium price and buy marine fuel and keep a couple of 5 gal cans on hand, When I need to run the generator for a power outage I usually run on what ever fuel is available (ethanol fuel) and when the power comes back on I drain the tank, run the carb dry and then flush the fuel system with good gas and run the engine for 10 or 15 minutes and then run it dry and drain the tank until the next time it's needed. In myopinion the drain and flush proceedure is less time consuming and costly than the aggravation of an engine that won't run or run right when I need want/need it to run. The $ 1.50 a gallon premium price adds up to $20 or$30 a year for me and that's less than a carb kit and soak solution or a new carb.

I don't remember, I was really drunk at the time... Seriously, long-time Jefferson Airplane / Hot Tuna fan, first saw Tuna live in 1972, I was like 3 years old. Great thread, Geno, thanks for getting it started!

Tore the motor down today and its not pretty. Really nothing left to save. So I installed a pull start 8hp magnum. Will wait until I can find a good 8 or 10hp k series for cheap.

Right now Amazon.com has a good price on Carlisle 23x8.5x12 tires. $58 a piece

Geeze... you're never gonna finish that trailer at this rate.

1> Biggest C was the C-195. 2> No they did not make a manual tranny GT-14. 3> I'm pretty sure that a 3 point was an option. Mike..........

2 weeks until show time!!! Get those Horses ready and let's fill this place up! This is the biggest thing to come to this community each year! See you all real soon!

Jason--You are spot on with the Bolens plow. It had been traded in at the dealership and they were going to junk it. SO dad took it and cut the frame off of it and modified it to fit his sleeve hitch. Unfortunately, it doesn't have any adjustment to it but he still managed to use it regularly for about 10 years! The weight was a flywheel off of an old IH baler if I remember the story correctly. I'll have to double check with dad when he gets back from his trip just to make sure. Terry M--Thanks for the heads up on the show, we will place it on our calendars. Hopefully the Iron Horse is completed by then!

Is that it in your avatar pic? Great score for free!! Mike..............