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Last month I was fortunate enough to purchase Bill's (Leeave96) 520H w/ kwik-way loader. (Some of you may remember that he traded a log splitter for it). Well, he hooked me up and I couldn't be happier! The loader itself is in great shape. The cylinders and hoses are excellent with no cracks or leaks! The plates on the back weigh about 35 lbs each. So with the cast iron wheel weights (assuming they are 55 pounds) there is about 285 pounds on the rear. I am not sure if the tires are loaded. It was a pretty interesting experience getting up there to his place in the mountains of VA! I don't have a trailer so Dad had to meet me up there with the equipment trailer that he uses to tow his kabota.. We were making good time until we realized that the GPS was set for shortest distance instead of quickest time. I didn't realize it until we pulled up to an intersection and with no cars coming he just sat there. I then noticed the sign that says, "road not passable by vehicles over 25'....GPS routing not advised". hahaha. Anyways, we made it there and I met Bill and his boys. Great folks! I really enjoyed talking wheel horses with them. I tried my best to contain my excitement, but I just couldn't do it. We even discovered that there was water in the oil, but I didn't care. I knew I was leaving with the loader before I even got there. Bill was kind enough to change the oil and give me a fresh battery. We probably ran it more while I was there than the entire time Bill had it. I looked back at Bill's post when he purchased it and it had 158.6 hours in September 2013, I believe it had 158.8 when I unloaded onto my trailer at my parents house. It now has 159.6hrs. After finally getting it to Raleigh from my parents place last weekend, I was able to mess with it and get most of the water out of the engine. I drained the oil and removed the filter (had to drive a screw driver through it in order to loosen it). I Put on a new filter and filled the engine with a half cup of diesel fuel and the rest with cheap oil. I ran it for 2 or 3 minutes, drained the oil, refilled with new oil and put on a new filter. Ran it for 5 minutes, drained, changed filter, and refilled with rotella 30wt. I ran it for about 30 minutes and when I removed the dip stick I saw a small whisp or milkiness, so I assume there might still be a smig of water in it. Today I drained the oil, and did the diesel trick again. Changed the filter and refilled with oil. Ill probably change it a couple more times before being completely satisfied. I am using Motorcraft F400S filters. I am getting them from advance auto for $2.58 (after using some online coupon codes). I also put a tarp over the engine and electrical area and spent about an hour with the pressure washer getting all the dirt and grim off it. For 160 hours, the tractor looks pretty rough/neglected. As Bill put it, it was driven hard and put up wet. I believe the guy who had it before Bill was this tractors worst nightmare. I'll get some better pictures later this week. The red paint is pretty faded but that just means I get to experiment with my orbital buffer that I have never used haha. I am super stoked about this machine! Gotta start learning about onans I guess! Thanks again Bill, you da man!

I haven't had time to post pics of a lot of the Horses we've been bringing home but I'm trying to get better. Just got back from a trip to MD and Jersey. We picked up Don's (MD) cab, snow plow, snow blower + a Lawn Ranger. We bought Glenn's snow blower and he bought us lunch, great guy indeed. I brought home all the truck and trailer would hold but will have to make more trips. The rest of the stuff pictured came from my old wheel horse dealer and friend in Jersey, Glenn got to meet him. The coolest thing I think I bought was an old Toro 72 (72"reel mower) with a Wisconsin engine from the 50's but have to go back to get it and the other things. We found an unexpected prize, it's the one between the front two on the trailer. I'll put it in another post cause I need help with the year.

Had a couple out today getting ready for Edgar steam show.

I'm sure this has been seen before on here but as a new comer. This was pretty impressive and overwhelming seeing for the first time. I have my hands full with the few that I have already! http://rbwheelhorsestables.yolasite.com/ Kyle

Here is my contribution for the month. It's sort of "red" - and promotes healthy living. I don't get to sit to use it.

When I started this project, I knew almost nothing about this stuff. I must say here, you folks have been so helpful and have taught me so much. I am very appreciative and respectful of your knowledge and your willingness to share it, thank you all! I'll work on this project tomorrow and keep you posted.

Just brought this back from Jersey. It has the wrong motor, my dealer friend said it was supposed to have a 4hp Kohler that he has but has to find it. Got the tractor, slot hitch, snow plow with hookup, rear plow + deck. I'm trying to find out if it's a 58 or 59 from the experts here.

Added this 1980 Gravely 5665 to the herd today. It is a bit more familiar engine-wise with a Kohler K-301. It might be interesting to compare this to my 1980 C-105 with what a consumer back then would have considered. No "box stores" back then. Strictly sales pitch and advertising. Tomorrow I put on the new set of dual Ags - and put on a brush hog. It's too early for snow!!!

The transmission will have a some letters and numbers on it that indicates when it was produced. There is a code for it. It only indicates when the transmission was produced. It should be to the right of the transmission shifter (as if sitting on the tractor -right). The code goes like this: J/12/8 Letter is the Month of Production J = October 12 = Day 8 = is Year I have an early 1958 with no letter or numbers embossed on the transmission housing. I have one with a 1959 transmission.

I'd say 59 going by the solid pan seat. The lift lever/selector is not original but is common thing to see added, that is the setup the suburbans used. Looks like a very nice find.

You end up learning way more that you ever wanted to....for sure!!! Thankfully, the guys here on RS are top notch, and very patient. (Just have do deal with a good ribbing every now and again. No sweat, as we've all been there. Glad to hear it's running now.

Was another fine day today.

Well the story continues, revenge has been served. Yesterday I had to visit the big box store that my neighbor bought his tractor from. As I got into the lawn and garden area I heard someone raising there voice with one of the sales associates. Wouldn't you know it, there was m y neighbor raising heck with the sales associate. I had an idea what he was upset about. I continued to look what I came in for then ventured back over to the lawn and garden area. While I was checking out some other stuff the associate came over to ask if I needed help. Well I could not help myself I had to mention I noticed he had a up set customer. He chuckled and said yeah. He told me that the guy had come in wanting to return his lawn tractor because trying to pull a heavy roller thru some new landscaping up and down his lawn he blew the transmission out of it. The sales guy was trying to point out to him that it says right in the manual it does not recommend pulling a roller as it puts too much strain on the transmission. So revenge has been served, I thought about driving the Ol' C-145 down there pulling my big roller but no since in throwing gas on the fire. I will bet he won't stop by again.

In my quest to find a 1045 that I could afford. I bought this 1257 and rebuilt motor/ starter generator and removed fender pan and installed tool box with round hood fenders, 8 speed trans. Little oil on the tins. This is my 1045/1257. I like how it turned out. Thanks for looking Tom

Not really i was planning on taking it to the mid mo meet and greet to see if i could maybe do sum trading with it

PA is a honey hole for Wheel Horses! Everything you always wanted is there. It's even home to the Wheel Horse Collector Club big show. I go there all the time and steal their Horses!!!! Oops! Did I let the cat out of the bag?!!!

He's to stay out of Pennsylvania!

It's the whole voltage vs amperage thing. A test light should always be the first choice, multi meters can get you into missing things too many times. Is it running Tommy?

Wait 'til Geno discovers Pennsylvania!!!

Hello everyone. How do you tighten the drive belt on the B-80? I see the threaded rod on the other side . Just take up on that? I'm not sure. Belt is making a lot of noise rapping on cover

You will need a new belt to fix the problem

A nice bright bulb tells you a lot. It means that there is a good clean connection. Dim bulb says there is a dirty connection. Usually a corroded ground wire. I have used this several times in the last week to diagnose a problem. Never would have thought of it either if someone else here had not suggested it to me.

Ok Thanks for the advice and you're right, I have to remove everything anyway so one way or the other will be ok

It will actually hook right up to the C-175 mid mount. I had one hooked up like that for a while until I was going down a steep hill and a stump jumped in front of me and was stopped by the deck. Use the front mule drive and the correct length belt. One odd thing happens though. The deck will move backwards some when you lift it. Not enough to hit the rear tires but enough to make the belt guitar string tight. I didn't like that so whenever I lifted the deck when I was done I would loosen the belt.

Gene, what a haul. you beat santa. lol Was a real pleasure meeting the both of you. I think all you need is a tractor trailer with a 48ft. box. See what wheel horse did to you. ADDICTED, Glenn

I worked for a small garage for a few yrs. The owner there had a big heart and he would often try to help out customers with little money when their cars died. The fact is it has nothing to do with the yard you got the engine and or tranny from, it all boils down to how the previous owner took care of it and that is s toss up. Tons of people out there never change their oil. I had a few trannies and one engine take a dump within the 60 day warranty. The vehicle the engine crapped out in was in a van and it was no easy install. The yards stood tall and honored their warranty BUT they don't pay for the R&R of the crapped out unit... Even though the owner of the shop had to pay me again to R&R the engine in the van who wants to do that job twice in a month... I'm not saying purchasing from a salvage yard is a bad idea I'm just saying that sometimes it comes back to bite ya...

Trying to remember what that was in reference to. Thanks. Rob

A 12" is better suited for a bigger tractor.

The wife asked me to clean the bathroom, so I used the WH to get the pressure washer up to the balcony.

I had trouble with mine sense ive owned it i thought it was leaking around the gasket and it ended up having a crack in it so i cleaned it and used the red kote and i have not had any problems sense i didn't even put the gasket back in it

I had heard that they went from one solid piece tank to the two piece is because the one piece was way more to produce. If that is fact or not I do not know.

What Garry said. If you don't have a solenoid with an isolated coil, and it worked by connecting the wire to the other terminal, DON'T ground the other terminal. Just leave it alone.

Thanks Garry, I'll just change posts and hope for the best.

I would not ground the other terminal. Some of these solenoids for auto applications used the 2nd small terminal to feed the ignition coil on starting which bypassed the ignition resistor for hotter cold spark. Garry

Some people don't deserve a classic WH. If you don't know why they are better, you will never get it. Others live in a throw away world and do not understand or have the "Knack"! The Knack

Craig has the right idea, but I would just hook the roller, to the horse, and park it in my front lawn. Put a little sign on it, "Lawn Rolling for Free"! Rob

I see this thread is almost 2 years old, but if Cutlass3391 is still around, are those Holeshot's on the front? Someone brought this thread back from the dead, so I'll dig out an old HDD and find my "Winter of XXXX" pix. I know I have some...

Better yet, hook to the front of hid dead junk with the roller still hooked to the back (that is IF it didn't pull his tranny apart). Pull it back to his garage that way.

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Ya know what chaps me more is someone saying that is when I think about myself, my dad, history. Look at some of the updated of us. Heck if it works, be proud of our fore bearers ingenuity and let em laugh and MalMac that's a right fine lookin machine that apparently just makes him jealous. Keep on keepin' on

hauling people and everything i can (seat moves up and down with 3 point) dragging dragging driveway and green tractors.

Malmac, My best friend is just that guy! He recently built a bigger house and has some lawn now. He asked my advice on what to get for a lawn mower/tractor. Now this guy has trouble changing a light bulb, so when he asked me my opinion, my first fleeting thought was an older Wheel Horse. However, as previously stated, this fellow is not one to change oil, check tire pressure, etc, so when I opened my mouth, I said "You should go to Home Depot and buy a new John Deere. They have a 3 year warranty, blah, blah, blah. He is happy with his "Tractor". I am happy not fixing it! Wheel Horse tractors are made for men and women who can appreciate a well made product. Quality over Quantity any day of the week. Year in, Year out. You get my point. I have said it before, and will say it again, "Wheel Horse Tractors are Lifetime Tractors".

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Love the hitch and for sure need to do the same thing. Great job.

By any chance, have any safety switches anywhere on it?

The first question I would ask my neighbor is "Does it have a serviceable transaxle in it?" When he answers no, ask him what he is going to do with the engine and frame when the rear takes a dump on him two years down the road. My neighbors laugh a little when they see my old 6' 2" 430 lb. body laying in the drive working on my Wheel Horses and other equipment. I had one stop one day and ask me why I was having so much trouble with my equipment. I told him I wasn't having trouble, I was just making sure I didn't have any trouble the upcoming Winter. It was like a light went off. It was as if he had never thought of doing an oil change, lube and tune up on his mower. (Forehead slap entered here________") The next day I drove by and he was on the drive changing his oil (more likely the syrup he had left in it.) I also told him about the benefits of MMO, Sea Foam and non-ethanol fuel which is sold a few miles up the road. I now have a friend for life just for the education. He was also amazed when my GT pulled my girlfriends JD 155C, overloaded yard trailer (500 lb.+) full of landscape brick, her 310 lb. son and my 430 lb. self uphill and around the house between two of the vehicles without spinning a tire. He just couldn't believe it could pull all the weight. I even told him "You should see it move snow".

Is that an IOU on the hood? LOl!!!!!!!

I checked with fourwheels0....he didn't get that one!

km3h...I understand where you are going with this, but I am not sure I would paint this horse just yet. This is pretty original and may clean up really nice. She is going to make that horse look nice no matter what color it is. What do ya think??