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Well the story continues, revenge has been served. Yesterday I had to visit the big box store that my neighbor bought his tractor from. As I got into the lawn and garden area I heard someone raising there voice with one of the sales associates. Wouldn't you know it, there was m y neighbor raising heck with the sales associate. I had an idea what he was upset about. I continued to look what I came in for then ventured back over to the lawn and garden area. While I was checking out some other stuff the associate came over to ask if I needed help. Well I could not help myself I had to mention I noticed he had a up set customer. He chuckled and said yeah. He told me that the guy had come in wanting to return his lawn tractor because trying to pull a heavy roller thru some new landscaping up and down his lawn he blew the transmission out of it. The sales guy was trying to point out to him that it says right in the manual it does not recommend pulling a roller as it puts too much strain on the transmission. So revenge has been served, I thought about driving the Ol' C-145 down there pulling my big roller but no since in throwing gas on the fire. I will bet he won't stop by again.

Well, here is what has worked for me, in the past. Casually take your horse for a stroll, down the street, to his house. Make like you are thinking about purchasing one of those POS's. Put yours along side of his. Ask him all kinds of questions about his vs. yours. Look it over real good, usually about this time, I spring the final question. Do you mind if we test their HP strength? I have never had anyone turn this opportunity down. They are usually so pumped about all the questions and now, "he can really prove to ME" just how much a POS it is. Course he has no idea that just becasue his has 26hp and only weighs in at 480lbslbs. that 26hp LT/POS will be in for the fight of it's life against your's that is nearly double that in weight, but only 14hp. Once you pull him backwards, and probably hear something snap in his transmission, you can just sit their, smile and say whatever comes to your mind at that time....

In my quest to find a 1045 that I could afford. I bought this 1257 and rebuilt motor/ starter generator and removed fender pan and installed tool box with round hood fenders, 8 speed trans. Little oil on the tins. This is my 1045/1257. I like how it turned out. Thanks for looking Tom

416-8 used for digging and moving dirt 418-C and 2 stage blower for snow removal 654 for pushing snow and dirt 855 for mowing and a bunch of little round hoods for cruising around the engine shows

Was another fine day today.

That is too funny!..... Perfect..... I don't know but I think I'd have to pour jusssst a little bit of salt on that wound.

Thats not a V8, thats the starter for the other two engines, lol. What a machine.

hauling people and everything i can (seat moves up and down with 3 point) dragging dragging driveway and green tractors.

It's funny because when AMC and Munn owned Wheelhorse, nobody called them AMC/Wheelhorse or Munn/Wheelhorse. Here is how I see it...........If it has the Wheelhorse brand on the tractor, it's a Wheelhorse, period. If it's a continuation of a WH model even if it doesn't say Wheelhorse on it, it's still a Wheelhorse. None of my tractors built during the Toro age are referred as Toro's. They aren't. They are true Wheelhorses or Toro/Wheelhorse if you wish. . To Cocky-Rocky.............If it wasn't for Toro and their marketing and management at the time, we wouldn't have many tractors to use or collect. They could have shut the line down and cranked out cheap imitations of both the garden tractor and lawn tractor lines calling them anything they wanted! But they didn't! They manufactured what were in essence, true over-built, over-engineered, heavy Wheelhorse tractors. The garden tractor line accepted the same WH implements as far back as the late 1960's for 16 more years ending in 2001 in one form or another and all this during a shift in society for cheaper, throw away when they wear out equipment. They even created what many consider bigger, better versions of the WH designs with the Xi Garden Tractors until 2005. They even kept the parts for the older tractors and those they continued to manufacture available for a long time. Just imagine if if MTD had bought them out. I owned a 1975 HD Sportster that I traded even up for my 1980's C-175 with a deck and a plow. As you said, AMF kept HD afloat but destroyed their reputation for quality. Toro kept WH going and did it without much sacrifice on quality at all. My 310-8, 416-8 and 520-H are Wheelhorses. Your 267H was designed by Toro but influenced by Wheelhorse. Look at that tractor and how heavy it is built verses what you would buy now for a similar lawn tractor. You have every right to call it a Wheelhorse. Because it is.

As promised, more photos.

What Bob said...Thanks for letting us know. Glad you found and fixed the problem.

Glad you found the problem. Thanks for letting us know what the resolution was. It is always helpful to others who may have the same or similar situation.

Im glad some people feel like that. Leaves more for us.

I can't imagine one good reason why... you stopped that gorgeous to entertain his nonsense in the first place. .

So I finally got around to taking a couple of pictures of my new 603. This was a one owner tractor I picked up in Bay City, MI. Has both deck and push blade in very good condition. The gentleman that owned this lived on a small city lot and took very good care of it. I haven't had a chance yet to look it over or try to get it running yet. Here's a few pictures.

I put this hitch together to make use of the rear lift installed on this tractor for the rototiller. Since the tiller is only on for a short period of time I figured I might as well make use of it to move my utility trailer around the yard and be able to hook up by just backing under it and lifting until the ball engages. Wheel horse lift hitch plans.pdf Cleat

Went to the OVAM show today. There were a lot of hit & miss and steam engines as well as farm tractors and garden tractors. There were lots of crafts and eating stands too. It was sprinkling off and on. Here are some photos that my wife took. I will post more photos later. My new sign:

And it was free gonna mod it to fit my 654 I recently bought

If you have the adjustable tie rods, you can order new ends off eBay, McMaster & Carr, Amazon etc. If you have the non-adjustable tie rods, you can use a punch and hammer to tap around the ball socket to tighten it up.

Some people don't deserve a classic WH. If you don't know why they are better, you will never get it. Others live in a throw away world and do not understand or have the "Knack"! The Knack

Thanks man, that definitely looks like the way to go.

Craig has the right idea, but I would just hook the roller, to the horse, and park it in my front lawn. Put a little sign on it, "Lawn Rolling for Free"! Rob

Karl, please be careful under there and use any and all safety precautions. There can't be enough overkill when it comes to your safety.

I always use stripper myself and it takes a lot less time and elbow grease that way and if you have a pressure washer, it will take most of the paint off. After I get it down like you did I usually sand blast that rust or just spray it with rust converter and primer before I paint it. I guess you could use some kind of acid to remove the rust or maybe toilet bowl cleaner. I can hear the laughter now but have you ever tried it? As far as scrapers are concerned, I bought a set of plastic scrapers at HF a while back just for that purpose. They won't scratch the metal.

Jason, Terry sure is going to Pioneer Power with a Wheel Horse plow, going to turn some dirt. Any takers? Mike paint is burning off on the bottom. Tom

A little farther back would be great. I think I am looking at the deeper half of case of your trans. This would make that threw bearing where your break shaft come out. That mark may just have been a milling mark from the factory and is not an issue. If you have 1 1/8" axles...you want the KOYO B-1816 and the seal SKF 11050. These are available from Motion Industries or from NAPA. I just bought these from Motion Ind a few weeks ago...the B-1816 was $11.70 for 2 of them and the seals were $5.06 for 2. The TORO 1526 was changed to TORO 9416, but you will pay much more buying them from TORO. What you want to buy from TORO is the gasket you will need between the case halves...TORO #3912...just paid $5.13 for that. It is possible you have 1" axles in an 8 speed trans...you need to check that. Also check the diameter of your brake shaft and input shaft to get the right seals for those. If the input shaft is 5/8" you need seal SKF 6105. If the brake shaft is 3/4" you need seal SKF 7410. If your brake shaft is 1" you need seal SKF 9815.

That is one of the best stories I've heard about the new "homogenized" lawn tractors. I would go over there and pull his roller...laughing the whole time. Now He'll probably buy a

I'll give you the links. I just finished one with videos also. The 6 speed is basically the same as an 8 speed.

I am on vacation in Arizona myself as I write this. My wife and I have been gone a week. Started last Sunday making our way to the Grand Canyon. Then south to Sedona, then to Phoenix. Saw a pre-season AZ Cardinals football game last night where they whopped the Texans. Today we'll drop south to Tucson then over to Carlsbad to dwell in the caves before heading to the Midland-Odessa area to see some friends. I'd live here in a heartbeat if the occasion presented itself

mine run in???? maybe we could get them together and the two of them can find a nuetral and stay put. ha

So they would become a set of dedicated winter tires then right? Of would you back em all out in the spring? Mike...........

Well darn, I thought it was supposed to be straight. I like it straight so thats where it is gonna stay!

It's true, you either need 10 tons to pull them off, or they drop off by themselves. My cure, besides new set screws is the grind a step into the woodruff key where the screw sits. That way there's no chance it can move as it sits in it's own pocket...

Malmac, My best friend is just that guy! He recently built a bigger house and has some lawn now. He asked my advice on what to get for a lawn mower/tractor. Now this guy has trouble changing a light bulb, so when he asked me my opinion, my first fleeting thought was an older Wheel Horse. However, as previously stated, this fellow is not one to change oil, check tire pressure, etc, so when I opened my mouth, I said "You should go to Home Depot and buy a new John Deere. They have a 3 year warranty, blah, blah, blah. He is happy with his "Tractor". I am happy not fixing it! Wheel Horse tractors are made for men and women who can appreciate a well made product. Quality over Quantity any day of the week. Year in, Year out. You get my point. I have said it before, and will say it again, "Wheel Horse Tractors are Lifetime Tractors".

There are special sockets made for these square head set screws. Got a five sixteenths 8 point Japan and a three eights 8 point Craftsman number 44343. Proper tools are wonderful !!!

If you want to fix this for good, get a new woodruff key and new HARDENED sq head set screws for each wheel and a new jam nut. Don't buy the cheapie set screws as they are not hardened and the cup point will get dull. If you have 2 set screws per hub, then replace both with new ones. To sock down the set screws get an 8 point socket. (you cannot get them tight enough with a 3/8 wrench-not enough leverage) A 12 point will do in a pinch but to fit a 3/8 sq hd set screw, only a metric 12 point will work. I forget which size metric socket will work, but is is a common one, maybe 9mm

Yes! Pickle them! First rinse them and dry them with a towel. Cut your banana peppers into rings, about 1/4" thick and stuff them into jars. Stuff three peeled cloves of garlic down in the sides of the jar. For pint jars, add one teaspoon of pickling salt over top of the peppers, two teaspoons for quarts. In a sauce pan, mix in one part apple cider vinegar to two parts water and bring to a boil. Pour over the peppers and fill jars to the top. Put on the lids and process for ten minutes in a boiling water bath. Sit them on the counter afterwards and listen for the lids to pop...that means they've sealed. After about a week, you should have some delicious peppers! Refrigerate after opening. Enjoy!

That looks fantastic. You can come over to my house and weld anytime...we don't wear shoes either...and can always have dinner.

more of the Hoover Dam...... upstream..... thats all i have, I'm sure thats way too many for some of you, but i thought these pics might be of interest....... thanks for looking! i had some more pan shots but for some reason they won't upload using the standard pic method. i might try the photo bucket way to upload.

Never seen such a good pepper here as well. Only put out 4 banana peppers But put them on the shady side of my okra per companion planting guide And have them running out my blank blank. Put watering can on nearly every day, three foot tall and producing like crazy Don't know what to do with them. Any suggestions !!!

Love the Euclid. There's one of those that stays at LeSueur too... and man when they run that thing you know it. I think the ground shakes for about a 100 yard radius around it!

Does the engine have points? It should survive a massive solar flare or EMP from nuclear war. Tell him that you are a "Doomsday Prepper" getting ready for the Apocalypse! Invite him over to see your "fallout shelter" too. :handgestures-thumbupright: Example here-http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=216999

Ok here is the plan when this one he bought dies next year or year after tell him you sure are glad you have that Stone Age tractor and ask him how much he wasted on the one he just had to replace

Word. I replaced the steering sector 2 years ago. Royal pain in the A.

Its a TORO. Anything produced after 1986 (or maybe its 1987) is a TORO product. TORO used the Wheel Horse name on lots of tractors because of the excellent reputation the WH name had. Mike...........

I took the engine to a machine shop and it looks like the block is OK. I plan to have the cylinder re-bored and re-grind the valve seats. I do have to completely break down the engine and I am having difficulty getting the flywheel off on side and the belt pulley on the other. Any hints? When I get it back I will install a rebuild kit and hope for the best.

I made this post to show you the final result of the front lights. I tried to respect it as was the original one. To finish definitely the restoration just missing tail light and decals. These would be the last step.

I would say that most of the problems with the techy carb and cleaning it and still not running right is the fact that you can not get to the place the carb clogs up just taking it apart and soaking it will not clean the low speed passage which is the place 90% of them clog up you have to remove a brass plug from the carb body to gain access there is a small metal rod in this passage also.with the bass plug removed you can get the metal rod out and use a pipe cleaner and spray carb cleaner on the passage way to clean it a fast check to tell if you have a clogged low speed passage is with the carb off the tractor remove the jets, bowl ,float, needle hold the carb body next you your ear and shake it up and down you should hear a clink of the small metal rod moving back and forth in it's passage way if it does not the passage way is clogged up Brian