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I don't believe there is anything bad about splash lubrication. All of our one lung kohlers are splash and we all know how they perform. And second, the KT series 1 is not splash lubrication in any way. It has an oil pump but only feeds the main bearings and cam. The cam is suppose to drip lubricate the rods. The motors are good up to 2000 hrs as long as oil is kept up with and not operated on steep hills for an prolong periods of time. Series 2 has a filter and drilled crank for feeding the rods with oil. Besides for the price, this one was coming home with me regaurdless. I would like to have a series 2 but I believe I can keep this one running a long time if it is ok from the start. kyle

Picked up a Suburban 1961 which has a Clinton in it. Looks original, but not sure yet. Came with original wheel weights, snow plow and mower deck. Oh yea this one has the serial number on the tractor and the mower deck. I'm tickled about this find. I already cut some grass with it. enjoy!!

Thanx for all the welcomes guys, That is soooo funny Lars. Great song Haven't quite got over the time differences yet at I am writing this at 4 am as it would be 10 am in UK. Had a day in Downtown Manhatten yesterday , Liberty statue, Ellis Island etc Also went to World Trade Centre Memorial , that place literally brought tears to my eyes. What a beautiful memorial they have given to those that lost their lives in 911 The new WTC building is just awesome . Was hoping to go into the 911 museum but there was a 3 hour wait in the waiting line. So we swerved past that for another time. New York City is an amazing place to visit, this is my second time in the Big Apple & it just gets better each time. Wonderful food, Amazing architecture And the size of the trucks is just mind bowing

Ok , I am starting to feel a little nuts but I couldn't help but go and pick this thing up. Once again a late night. We where on our way to play at an open mic and it just so happens, this thing was on the way.... Very solid tractor. I am keeping this on for sure. Seat is in great shape. I sure hope this runs. Its full of grass from last years mowing and I believe it was there only mower. More later.... Here is a teaser shot.

Well it took awhile but sure turned out nice.

Not sure yet. This might be a good one to clean up and leave alone

Yup, probably cast steel. The cross sectional area of the arms is really too small to be cast iron, and the slot pretty much rules a forging out. Steel. Cast steel, in fact any cast metal, tends to be brittle. The rolling process in a steel mill tends to align the molecules, and impart toughness. That said, cast steel, stainless, brass and bronze, etc, will more readily bend, hot or cold, than cast iron, you just don't want to bend it very far. When looking at a part that appears to be cast, there are a few easy tests that anyone can do to determine just what the part is. If magnetic, it is ferrous-based, and either iron, or any number of steels or stainless (your lower grades of stainless are indeed often cast, and will be magnetic). A forging will many times visually resemble a casting, but will almost always be steel. Also, forged shapes tend to be simple, think U-joints, wrenches, hammer heads, tie-rod ends, etc. If you have determined the part to be a ferrous casting, grind a little off with a sander, bench grinder, etc., and look closely at the spark pattern. Steel will emit a copious shower of bright yellow sparks. If cast iron, the sparks will be much more muted, shorter in length, and duller. The difference is easily discernable.

OK....NOW!!!!! The new gasket material arrived, got them cut and slapped everything together. With all the practice I've had I think it takes me about a minute to get all the parts in place. She's spinning free!!! Finally, I can move on to actually accomplishing something. Another big for all the help. Steve, you're the man! Time for a beer or 6 and go watch a transmission spin.

Enjoy us Neil...

Definitely going to show Neil a good time. He may not want to go back. He will be following me on the roads, so he should be OK.

Do a google image search "argent silver paint" for examples...everybody has it. I get mine from Eastwood...automotive restoration products. http://www.eastwood.com/silver-argent-rally-wheel-paint-set.html

I just aquired this Rj58 here in the UK from a friend, i pick it up this week Its a Runner although there are a few cosmetic things that are not quite right with itbut i intend to sort them out , so i will be asking for some RJ parts off you guys the first thing i need is a rear tool box & fenders if anyone has any

My name is Gregg..... And I am an addict... Started with one, and now I'm up to three.... The urge to say no to number four is not working..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I haven't had twenty Horses, maybe over time I did. Who's counting? Sons, grandsons, even the Ms. loved mowin'. Maybe just the riding around, relaxed. Lawns were always well kept. One day after my two sons were teens (now in their 40's), neighbor said to me, "I don't want to get involved but, your sons drag race your Wheel Horses down the road when you're not home." I told him, "Oh well." To this day, 'bout 40 years, still admiring the Stallions. Don't you just laugh, tickled, when you see a purchase goin' down in a BIG box store? Enjoy your Stallion! Many more to come, one to till, one to sweep, one to mow, one to tow, another to push, one or a dozen "work in progress." Are gnats really the New Hampshire Air Force?

Give it a rub down with some light sand paper and some oil and paint the wheels it will look awsome

I'd give you 2 thumbs up if my I- Pad would let me!

Great job... turned out really nice.

Well the girlfriend came to pick me up at work since we are short a vehicle from the PA hail storm. When she drives up I see a Raider 10 in the bed of the truck! She saw me looking at it on craigslist. It was listed with a plow , blower and deck. But when I called , he said it was sold..... Turns out the person he sold it to was her . Totally through me off, Ill tell you. Not many girlfriends out there that will buy you a tractor lol. And here I thought she was thinking I had to many.... She said, I like the older ones , with the older hoods. Yours are to new looking. So then she saw an RJ today and now I guess we need one of them too . Oh well, I guess this gives me the right to buy some more . Only issues with it is, it leaks fuel out of the fuel shut off mounted on the hood stand. Only when the fuel is turned on. Can I replace seals in this or buy a new one like it to mount there or do I just have to eliminate it with a new plastic type?? Second issue is the starter went south. It flew apart on the guy she bought it from when he was starting it. Now I have broken pieces. The starter motor is good but not the gear drive bendix. Any one know where to find a starter for a 10 horse Tecumseh?? No one local has one.... I showed the starter to Bill Jenkins and he said he never saw one like it. It has a heavy cast iron mounting bracket that uses two bolts to mount to the block. He told me , it was the first time he saw one like it. Hope that's not a bad sign.... We would love to be able to take this to the tractor show this weekend in bowers pa. We did however kick start it by towing it behind the 520H and it ran and drove really nice actually. So that was a plus. Here are some pictures for you guys.....

Oops! Sorry Steve. I should have known you knew that. r356c, After trying everything I could to get my left hub off I ended up cutting the axle. But, not before I knew I could get new axles. I gave the hub with the cut off piece stuck in it to my son-in-law who took it to the mechanic where he works. They have a 5 ton press and took it to the limit but the stub popped out and my hub was saved. I guess it would come down to whichever part you have the easiest access to a replacement.

Yes, I did see a full transmission service manual .PDF somewhere. Thanks! The hitch pin popped out like it was installed yesterday. The transmission input pulley is not parallel to the case by a degree or two in the direction that the belt puts tension on it. Preliminary guess without splitting the case is the needle bearing cage fell apart and a single needle bearing is wedged in the gears. Hopfully the casting isn't toast.

OH GEEZ!! NOOOOOOOO!! With all that's gone on I don't want to be too quick with the woo hoo. Let's just say I've got the mouse courser pointed to the emoticon.

Did you check with our vendors ?? Kelly is in OLIVET

As luck would have it, I just picked up a 4" angle grinder and metal cutting wheels. I will do the lengthwise cut in the hub and try to save the axle.

Should have mentioned ductile and malleable tarcoleo, that would work in this application too. You used to often find malleable in things like "C" clamps. Good call.

The Argent silver can be found, but it will most likely be with an automotive paint firm. When Craig posted the name, I thought it sounded familiar, and sure enough, it was used to paint the grille of my 1949 Ford F2 pickup. Dupont, PPG, and others have it. It is probably one of those silver paints that perennially crop up for use in a variety of applications.

Wow! - 30° Thats a pretty steep angle! While I have a couple ditches and smallish grades I dont think I have a situation that steep. Good stuff to know. Thanks Craig... Roundhouse, I bought 2 C-175's that had been sitting outside for YEARS, one useable with an Eaton 700, and the other an 8 spd with no tranny, but good engine. I've got the Eaton up and cutting grass, and am presently adapting the other KT-17 to a C-165 that had a blown engine. They are my first KT's and as I said I've really taken a shine to them. Also my first black hoods and I've take to their style also.

That tractor looks to be very clean, must have been kept inside - and sounds like you got a good deal on it too. On the subject of the KT-17's series 1 and their oiling method, I seem to recall reading somewhere Kohlers recommendation of the maximum grade to operate the engine at, anybody know what that was? I have 2 of the series one and both are in very good condition and I like them and the sound of them - I'd like to keep them that way!

Hard to go horribly wrong here... as they're all pretty much the same color.

Can't find any of the Argent, looked at TSC and NAPA, but I guess Rally Wheel silver is close too. Found it at TSC

I’m getting a rare sense of confidence that I have the issue resolved. I tried to check for axle housing squareness but it’s just not off enough to be certain. I honed out all four bronze bushings a little bit more and just made sure everything was polished smooth. I reassembled the differential and installed just it in the case with NO gaskets. It’s turning!! The axles are completely free and the differential seems to be rubbing just a fuzz but still turning pretty good. With no gaskets it likely is the differential housing being pinched a bit but it’s slight. The gaskets will probably resolve the rub but, worse case, I’ll need to get a little more clearance on the carrier bushings. With the assembly process used 54 years ago I believe that the tolerances needed when new parts are installed has to be a little more than today’s processes would require. I’m at a standstill right now until Mr. postman gets here today.

I like that air filter, great flow-thru design. Should block many bugs, house pets, and furry woodland creatures.

First of all, what year is the B-80? Looking at the hub, I would guess that it is a 1" axle, making it a 1974 or 1975 4-speed. Not sure why the input shaft is locked, but I have two disassembled B-80 4-speeds that we can get you some parts from if needed. Sent from my Moto G using Tapatalk

I bought a 418-8 on E-Bay from Cincinnati a couple months back. It completes my 418 series. 418A 418C 418-8.

If I may sneak this in here Toro lists the 1-0140 as using transmission model 5084. The transmission service manual lists model 5080 and 5084 for the 1-0140. 5080 uses 2-piece pinion gears and was previously used in the 1971 WorkHorse 800 model 1-0100 5084 uses 1-piece pinion gears. Which is correct or did they use up old inventory first? Garry

Have fun Neil!

Alaska is wonderful this time of year!

After reading this thread, and we have done this before, I want to add that I do use Sea Foam in my gas for the tractors and for the boat. I like the Snake Oil thing though. I am going to take some masking tape and re-label all my cans of Sea Foam in the garage.

Welcome! Looking forward to meeting you in person at the show!

You might be able to get to 3600 RPM's by adjusting where your throttle cable sets with respect to the carb. I had another color tractor with this same problem and that was the fix. IMHO - you should run at full throttle, 3600 RPM's. This gives you maximum blade speed, maximum lubrication and maximum cooling potential. When you hit a tall patch of grass, your engine's governor will try to maintain the 3600 RPM's. At that point, you are maxed at the amount of fuel that can go into the engine and are truely making your engine's max hp. Once the engine starts becoming overloaded, the RPM's start to fall and you start getting into the torque curve. Think of torque as a baseball bat and the amount of torque when you swing it is based on your hand position. So when you're no longer choked up on the bat, your swing slows, but when you hit the ball, it will hammer it. Same with your engine hp's torque. RPM's slow, the engine has the big lever to muscle through the tall grass. When it's over, the engine returns to 3600 RPM's and your gold again.

Here's what I think of seafoam. Does it work - IMHO, can't hurt. I use both seafoam and MMO. I think of seafoam as a cleaner and MMO as an upper cylinder lubricant. I use seafoam occasionally and MMO in every tank. Does it work? Again - don't really know. The BIGGEST reason I use the stuff is, again, it can't hurt, but for me it's part of the fun of kind of checking out of the real world and back into the past, along with the old iron tractors. I'm sure if my grandfather would have bought a Wheelhorse, he'd be dumping something in the gas. I have a friend whose grandfather worked at a Ford dealership for about 40 years and swore my MMO. My friend and my self think - well if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for us. So - I say, use the treatment you like and don't look back! It's all good! Bill

Welcome to New York Neil and Carolyn! As you know, it's a fabulous city with plenty to do and see. Really looking forward to meeting up with you at the show, hope you've recovered from your long flight and time change!

welcome Neil see you at the big show Brian

This all depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Are you trying to clean the fuel system? Yes sea foam is a great cleaner of old varnish and stale gas. But so is ethonal fuel. Alcohol is the cleaner. Are you trying to eliminate water in the fuel? then NO, isopropal alchohol will attract water. Are you worried about your fuel lines? Then No, Naptha will soften the lines. I suggest replacing all of your fuel lines with a good quality gas line rated to accept alcohol. You might also want to rebuild your fuel pump and carb needle to a Viton style. For fuel we use Star Tron fuel stabilizer for extended down time. ie a month or more. Or you can use at every fill up. This help eliminate the harmfull effects of ethonal on many of the fuel system parts. Good luck with your decission. Al

Welcome Neil!

I had to drive a postal truck with the steering on the WRONG side when I worked on them EGAD!!! Nice to have you aboard Neil. Watch out for guys with Chicago Bears jersey's on!

nice to have you here,Neil!!!! driving here aint that bad, i guess it took me a day or two to get out on the road without taking the left side instead of the right! (right, but really its wrong...) its been 15 years or so now, every now and again i find myself thinking and sometimes second guessing until i remember where i am. but I've never pulled out on the road on the wrong side again since that first day! i still remember the look on the drivers face in the car coming towards me..... hope you enjoy your stay here. Im sure you will enjoy meeting some of us midwesterners at the show this year as well. sorry i won't be there to meet you though...... I'm sure Steve will more than make up for it though. Hey Steve, show the Englishman a good time, ok?

welcome to the USA ! you will love flipping the windshield washer lever instead of the turn signal! have fun. I guess at the show we just have to look for chap with the jellied eel!

UH oh...clear the roads.

Finally, worked it hard today, gave it a bath and a good rubdown and it is heading into the stable soon for a rest. This was quite an experience redoing an old horse, cost me a LOT more than I had expected, but, it is worth it, it will still be running after I am gone, LOL Still need a few decals to finish up, hope to get them soon.

In my sleep? Today that would have been called a nightmare. I did start getting frustrated cuz things just weren't making sense. Then I discovered the problem with the rod holding the diff in the side plates. I do need that shim on the brakeshaft at the mushroom gear end. It's rubbing just a fuzz but wasn't causing the issue. The diff was the only thing I had in place. I got the axles and pinions back out but I need new stones for my hone. I'll get those tomorrow. I had already smoothed the pipe thingys the bushing ride on but I did some more this morning, I did gain a little bit so I agree that it's headed in the right direction. I'm going to use 1/32" gaskets instead of the 1/16" so the fit to the frame will be better. There's still going to be plenty of room for the shims on the input and brake shafts. You would have had to refill that cooler several times today