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We went to the Little Guys Show up in PA and did a bit of pullin' with my 1963 model 753 ...... AND the 702 tow truck tractor ! Now those who know me understand that I believe any thing can be done with a Wheel Horse tractor ! At the show I used my 702 tow truck tractor to tote the 753 around the grounds, through the parade and down the pullin' track towing the 753. Now most pullin' sled operators will not even think of letting some one .... especially me pull a stunt like this but I have known Bob at Rude Dog Pullin' Sled Rental for quite a few years and said ok but he did want me to wear a helmet . (a good rule for any puller) The folks in the crowd really didn't know what to think as the 702 tow truck tractor backed the 753 up to the sled and the hook was put on the hitch of the 753. With helmet on and given the GO signal we were of and pullin'. Now if'ns ya' will note that the front wheels are off the ground on both Wheel Horses, this due to the added weight of the 753 being on the under lift and the incredible pullin' of the smoky 7hp Kohler on the 702 tow truck tractor ! Great traction was had even with the multi purpose tires. HA HA this really got the Cub Cadet and John Deere pullers scratching their head . Two Wheel Horses pullin' two wheelies with only one driver . Wild Bill

" That from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain." Abraham Lincoln Nov. 19, 1863 We need not say more, every man, woman that ever died wearing the uniform offered their own life so we can live free.

i have emailed Humphreys dealership in the hope that they can share some more information on wheelhorse history & to see if they have anymore pics that they would like to show us on Redsquare hopefully they will reply

Great article! Thanks Neil! It would be just awesome to wander into a dealership in the 70's and see all those virgin machines sitting on the showroom floor wouldn't it? Mike.............

Sorry guys, this is a Memorial day thread, I'm going to clean it up. While politics are certainly sensitive when it comes to our military, this is intended to remember those who didn't return not presidential political issues or upcoming elections.

Well, I got wheelhorse back together, had to back track cpl times, but I got it fired up. Ran like a champ till I noticed oil seaping out air filter. Fixed that and now it is running awesome. First time I had to work on it , and it has brung me closer to the tractor. So I cleaned it up and here are a few pics as promised. One more )

Karl...we have cemeteries here where I live that have veterans graves lined up like that. All you need to do is go there and be silent for a while. If that does not affect you...well you know what I mean. I get tears in my eyes just typing this. I can't tell you how many friends I lost in the Viet Nam war...or how many came back messed up. I remember them more then just this weekend...I still see some of those that came back. They will only talk about their experience after a few beers...it is like a deep, dark secret that they keep inside and have to let out once in a while. I think that I am lucky to come through it unscathed sometimes...but, you know what, I really did not come through it unscathed. GOD BLESS ALL OF THEM AND THOSE THAT STILL SERVE!!

I also watch a ton of submarine movies...we all need to remember those that served. One of the best ways to remember the ones that did not make it back...exercise your right to vote this fall. That is the best thing you can do to remember...that is what they fought for. :flags-waveusa: :flags-waveusa:

CL find 310-8. Paid asking price of $300. Good deal in my book. Fires up fine, all gears work as hi/lo does too. Deck is quiet, belts look a lil worn, but gonna use them till they really need replaced. Need a headlight, heck don't know if they work, didn't check.... Not important.... Pics to enjoy. What year is she? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Dont know much about these dealers but there are some great vintage wheelhorse pics & apparently they have a vast amount of wheelhorse spares http://www.humphreysoutdoorpower.com/history/ note the cool boots & drain pipe trousers

here's the last pic's taken. Now just looking for the headlight assy. If any one has one or any part of one, email me thank you Zipper

Really enjoyed this with my morning coffee Neil. Thank you for sharing.

OMG! Shocking! What gas was he usin'? Oh yea, I remember now!

I know some of you guys have had a chance to read what I posted here...and that is OK. I have decided to understand that this is not the place to express my views for the 3000 other guys and gals out there. PM me if you want to know what I think. :)

At RedSquare we change the skin of the forum, at home we fly flags, and we all remember those who have fought and sacrificed their lives for us, here and around the world.

I have noticed this tractor on my way home but always passed the road before I thought about checking it out.Today I remembered and checked it out.I noticed it was a wheelhorse by the grille alone.I rounded the corner and lucky for me there was a van in the driveway with a business number on it.I called it and got the guy who lived there.I told him I would be interested in it if he ever wanted to sell it depending on the price.He said he would think about it.The wife must have really wanted it out of the yard cause he called me back in less than 15 minutes.He said he would sell it and 2 hours later,I handed him $150.00 and drove away with it.This might be too much for some but down here I cant find any wheelhorse stuff.The hood is the worst part.It's missing the seat and fuel tank but everything else is there.Some things have been cut on but its very fixable.Next week I go back and get the three point hitch blade and a front mount blade.The rear mount is a Wheelhorse blade, the front one is I think a Case brand blade(both for $50) I think I did alright. So what do I have?

3 years on this Ebay repop Zeek... still hangin' tough.

Looks really nice Charlie.

Not making much progress ... friggen HOT!!! Anyway, I had some old magnets laying around, so I bolted them to an old wood rack, and came up with a great table top tool for holding part. They are strong enough to hold whatever I put up there ... well, not the axles!! You can see one here holding a fender, plus a few other little pieces.

Ok, I looked at your profile and see that you are a young man trying to learn about engines so lets start with some basics and then you can do some more research and then come back and ask more questions and we will try to help you understand what is going on. Fact; engine horsepower can not be measured, it is a mathematical computation, HP= torque x RPM divided by 5252. these numbers are then corrected to a temperature, humidity and altitude standard so that all engines are supposedly rated on an apples to apples scale. Fact; An engine is a pump that moves air, the amount of air is controlled by the displacement of the cylinder and affected by the size and design of the valves and related duct work or manifolds or pipes. volume of air pumped will be less than 100 percent until you get into sophisticated high rpm high performance engines or pressurized intake systems . Fact; all o the materials used in an engine have definite thermal properties at which point they become plastic and then liquid, if you exceed these thermal limits parts will fail in spectacular ways. Now back to the original question about the exhaust pipes, some of the basics are based on mathematics and pretty finite but when you start pushing the original design limits you cross over into a grey area and their is a point where it starts to look like magic. You need some backpressure to keep the exhaust gasses and temps on the valve to prevent air from entering the mix and helping to continue the combustion process and super heating the valve seat and stem resulting the aforementioned thermal display. Rule of thumb for any exhaust system is to maintain the factory designed port diameter for a sufficient length to make up the volume of the cylinder displacement. A restricted bend like a pipe elbow will add resistance but a unrestricted mandrel bent will have minimal or no affect on back pressure. I hope this gives you something to think about and someplace to start doing some research on your own.

Understood. Everyone enjoy your weekend.

Very cool, Phil is a member here, but I don't think he has ever posted anything. His screen name is Cushman Phil

Great history and obviously, you can't stay in business that long without satisfying customers. Regardless of what you sell. Thanks for sharing this, Neil.

Karl...we posted at the same time above. I'm OK...just don't feel like lighting the grill this weekend...think I will go out to those markers and give this some thought. Maybe do some pictures.

Holy cow! Showroom condition from a worker! Nice tractor and welcome to Redsquare!

James, I can see you are following this post with great interest. As I have been following your tractor customization on the Euro forum, I know that as a young man you are interested in how you can get the most power, and possibly noise out of your motor. This thread has provided some good insight into the engineering of the flow of gasses through the engine, and how the original design considered the back pressure of the exhaust and its effect on fuel mixture and temperature. What was expressed earlier is that the stock muffler was designed in along with a maximum RPM to provide a long lasting engine. The designer may forsake achieving the maximum potential output in torque or HP to achieve reliability and to meet noise level regulations and health and safety requirements. Now that being said, if the owners intention is to race or pull, then modifications such as straight pipes, carb. re-tuning, over revving are all going to be needed to win. Making these modifications and taking the engine away from stock will be done at the risk of early engine failure. Minor changes can often be done without causing any significant damage. Here in the states, there are catalogs full of engine and exhaust system parts for automobiles that are engineered to gain horsepower, many of which are accomplished by using parts that are more expensive to produce by the manufacturer than the original automobile company could afford to use and still produce a car at a reasonable cost. Letting the engine breath a little easier with a more efficient intake manifold or exhaust more freely with some nicely designed headers can provide some small gains that can have little long term impact. Tweaking a tractor engine is a good place to start to learn how all of this mix of air and fuel and friction come together. As long as you go into it with the understanding that going beyond what the factory had in mind leaves you open to future repairs or damage, no harm done. People who race or pull live with this every time they take their machines out. Its called living on the edge. You can do little things to get little gain, or you can try big things and roll the dice. It comes down to what you want and how much money and time you have to spend on it. You are off to a good start by asking questions of the resources available here. The more information you have, the more efficiently you will spend your money and hopefully have greater rewards for your work. When you try something new and you do it with your eyes wide open and you know that there might be an associated risk, you will have a better understanding of how to analyze a failure when it occurs. Being able to analyze the failure becomes part of the game, and you have to figure out how you can try again but do it a little differently to overcome the last problem encountered. There is a lot of fun to be had with modification and experimentation to these tractors, just do it in a safe manner, and try not to bother the neighbors too much!!! Keep asking questions, it keeps everyone thinking here. Rick

We need a whole topic Pinned at the top " Onan surging problems" or Onan carb cleaning. Maybe it's just me but anytime you see the words 520h or Onan, it's connected to a surging dirty carburetor.

Looks like it has the potential to be an electrifying experience.

Very impressive biography there. Thanks for sharing Neil, really enjoyed it.

Nope, you're fine... just remember your routine visit to see the doctors here everyday.

I forgot to mention it came with tire chains also. Yes a very good deal. Helps make up for how much I paid for the tractor and loader.

Go to YouTube. You will find many videos showing you exactly how to rebuild this engine. It is not brain surgery. Parts are readily available. As you take it apart, take a lot of photos. Then take it to a machine shop, have them check the cylinders and crankshaft before you buy any parts.

I ordered one from parts tree as dave suggested, they are available. I'm flattered that you think I would know enough to help others, I've learned only from getting in there and figuring it out and from making stupid mistakes. Without your videos and advise, I would probably have hauled this thing to the salvage yard long ago. Thanks.

Oh I search about 4 different towns with both spellings LOL. I honestly thought I was the only one to do that. I also search the generic term garden tractor when I have the time to sort them all. I plan to build a small barn about 16x22 with an inclosed 10x22 lean to for storage... I know its small but I already have a 3 car garage with a workshop in it. Also I live in town but I have 4 lots and my garden is about 16x40 or so. So am I ok or should I see a doctor?

I may bring them. We can use them as "Pit" signs during the cruise!

I will never forget the first time that I visited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in 1988. While there, I traced the names of two friends from high school - and was moved to tears. My father was a wounded veteran from WWII. My brother and I still talk about my father's silence regarding his service during the war. Only one time did he speak of the details regarding the atrocities and bloodiness he witnessed. Amen, Steve!

If your into Cub Cadets, search for club cadets... LOL!!!

I would only call it an adiction if you live in a 20th floor apartment in Brooklin (or somewhere similer) with no sign of grass, garden, or snow to plow. Then you have a problem Seek help!

Spent some time today in the shop. Got the engine degreased and primed with high temp primer. Finished all the pto parts. I stripped, polished and clear coated what I call the bail to give a little pop. I also polished the starter and clear coated that to add to the look of the engine. Also finished stripping, priming and painting a few other parts. Now to find some IH red high temp paint.

Rick , My mind is foggy but I believe the cigarette lighters started in 1965 and continued through 1972. I plug my GPS unit in my 1075's cigarette light when cutting the lawn .... jus' in case I get lost. Wild Bill

Your doing a mighty fine job. when its done it will be super duper. Glenn

Here's my take on this topic. For those of you who know me, lord knows I've bought and sold my fair share of tractors - most for profit (but not all). My asking price is never firm. It's the thrill of the chase in my opinion - for both sides of the deal. I have an idea in my head of what I want and always apply the "friendly markup" to compensate for wiggle room. On rare occasion you do get the person to pay asking price with no haggle, but more often than not its a negotiation. That's part of the fun. There are also plenty of cases where I'll drop below my desired price because it's someone I know or another member I've done business with in the past. In the process, I have "low-balled". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. My overall intent though is not to kick the man while he's down. Like I tell my wife, he didn't have to say yes... I buy and sell, making small gains along the way, so I can buy tractors I want to add to my collection of keepers. With a family, house etc. it's my way of continuing my hobby while also keeping this addiction self-sustaining. I agree with Curmudgeon that there is no need for rude and inconsiderate people - that unfortunately will come with the CL territory though. Pad your prices, don't announce "firm" and roll with the punches a bit. I don't care how bad you think you have it, because in every hospital on every part of this earth, there are people living their last day wishing for just one more.

Please do not take this the wrong way...I have been following some of your threads...I have to say...you have picked the right avatar. Obviously, the right thing to do (so you might make it to 30 years old) is to shut it down before you dismount that horse. That is the right thing to do.

Steve you're supposed to rake the leaves AFTER they fall. Since you're gonna be laid up awhile are ya gonna use that wood you were cuttin? :wh:

You realize Steve that we can't give you the Gold Medal for Low Altitude Skydiving, ya didn't stick the landing ............... If laughter is the best medicine, you should heal quickly. Best of luck to you,