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Hi guys, Thought id share this quickly before going to work. I know how you like photos. Since fitting the new drive belt, wheelies have been a problem (much prefered over the slipping and loss of drive though) whilst in the hilly parts of the garden. And as the plan in the next few weeks is to put some chevron tyres and shift lots of mud with the trailer i wanted a solution. So here it is, a custom weight bar made from scrap and left overs i had around. Built over the past few nights after work, it is far from perfect, and needs more paint, but couldnt wait Ill tidy it up at a later date but just wanted to try it out and make sure its actually going to work before spending hours on it. First up i made a new engine mount as the original was aliuminium angle, then made a weight bracket. Then came the weight Made from a couple disc brakes, sheet of stainless, two turned oak caps and some ali handles. To be filled with sand. Designed so i can still open the bonnet without having to remove anything What do you think?

If its as hot out at the show next yr. as it was last yr...... I'll be the guy in the shade watching you guys bake.... I honestly don't know how Wild Bill does it. Ya done real good Steve!

It is great to attend the Wheel Horse Collectors Club and see all the RedSquare hats and buttons. While most of you know this, I want to be sure that everyone is aware. The Wheel Horse Collectors Club is NOT RedSquare. While we have a large attendance at the show, we could be so lucky to host an event like this. The Wheel Horse Collectors Club pre-dates RedSquare and is solely responsible for the annual gathering which we all enjoy either in person or by seeing the pictures. Please remember that The Wheel Horse Collectors Club needs your support as well. Visit their FaceBook page for information on becoming a member. Their fee is only $10 per year which is such a small amount to insure their continued efforts at providing a quality show. So please remember, both and The Wheel Horse Collectors Club need your support to keep this hobby going and if you enjoy the show, please support the sponsor The Wheel Horse Collectors Club. If you would like to support RedSquare you can do so by visiting our store and selecting the supporter package which is right for you. Both RedSquare and the Wheel Horse Collectors Club are dedicated to the continued preservation of the legacy which Cecil Pond worked so hard to build. edit: The Wheel Horse Collectors Club has had a number of website changes, I think the best place to contact them is their FaceBook page

Hello, I have been a Wheel Horse fan for a long time. My prior horses include a GT1100 and a 418. I currently use a 518xi for my year around worker, mowing grass and throwing snow. Since I sold my older ones years ago, I have been on a tiring search for a roundhood to tinker with. I FINALLY FOUND IT! Responded to a Craigslist ad 2 hours away from home. Packed up my 3 boys (6yr,3yr,and 7month) in the truck and picked it up. Did this while my wife was working, so I didn't have any back-up LOL. Just a man and his boys on a mission!

Been looking for quite awhile and have been torn between an open or enclosed trailer. Both have their positives and negatives for my intended use, which other than hauling a few red ones around the place, I sometimes need to haul lumber/building materials, maybe a car, whatever...... I also needed to consider the possibility of a larger full size tractor in the future, (maybe)... I've liked the fact that the enclosed I used was secure and kept everything dry, but it was like towing a brick wall behind my old red Sierra, gas mileage sucked, Been using an open just recently and it's like there's nothing there. Well, I've gone and dragged an 18 ft flat bed car hauler home for future hauling duties. It's staying open at the moment, but may end up getting some tractor height front and sides, sort of like the low height motorcycle haulers..... At least I can take 3 or 4 comfortably now, the enclosed would only fit two and it was a pain in the rear to load.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hello iam helping a friend work on his d200. The problem we have is the hydro can only barly move the tractor. First we made sure the push valve is closed, second we replaced the hydro pump no change in power. We put fresh oil in it and a napa 1410 oil filter. I think the problem is in the motor is there any way to test it? Thanks

Got a call today from my old boss and he had a friend that wanted to get rid of a old that was willed to him two weeks ago. He tried to get it running and had no luck, but he was the last one to use it and said it ran like a top 2 years ago. It is a 81 c125 with a non broken rear fender. The pic that I have does not show the rear fender, but it looks great and it has just some light scratches in it, but no cracks. It sat the last 2 years with a flat tire and it has two holes in the side wall. It has a non cracked 42" side discharge deck that is in useable condition. I Hood is very strait and very little rust on it. and all the parts are there. I put in a offer of $250 and he said that i have to take all his small engine stuff two. So I had to ask what he had. He told me he had a 12 hp kohler from a cub with a starter gen that was rebuilt by himself 10 years ago, but never installed. A bunch of carbs, and one was a rup offset carb and a down draft carb that looked like one from a Clinton. Then he said that fits the engine sitting over in the corner. It turned out to be a 4hp Clinton off of a old rototiller he had that a problem with the carb and never got it back together. There was several other briggs engines and lots of other misl stuff, But I couldn't say no to this deal. I pick it all up in a week.

Mike............

i have been a member of the W.H.C.C. for over 12 years. long before i even had a computer. when i go to the show i renew my membership. it runs june to june. if i dont go to the show i send a check. One day there i wear my whcc hat with the badges ETC. including my redsquare button,thanks terry. the other day ill wear my redsquare hat. i have also bought decals from both mahewes and redoyour horse and bought parts from just about everyone including the guy in the polkadot hat, thanks glenn. i support the hobby & everyone in it. jay in nc.

Looks like you found a nice one!

Why not try running a "fogging spray" into the carburetor ? You can drain the fuel tank ... or top it off and add a fuel conditioner and then fog the engine while running. Doing this will keep the combustion chamber, piston rings, carburetor and cylinder wall from getting corroded. I do this on my Wheel Horses and outboard boat motors, fogging spray can be purchased at most automotive and marine supply shops. When using the kerosene some does get burned off and what is left over will soot up the plug. Wild Bill Richmond, VA

A friend of mine give me this motor, he rescued it from being taken to the dump. It seems to have good compression and rolls over smooth....has a Carter N carb. I have been patiently looking for an original style motor to put in my rj-35 and was wondering if this k90 would have been an original style motor to a rj-35? Thanks for any info, Al.

Glad to have you there . . . it was good to meet you and hang out a bit! I especially enjoyed the "parts" you brought

Nice find and thanks for including the photo. Keep the boys involved as you go along, theywill love it and you will be building some great memories togather. Keep us updated as you go along.

is this a wheel horse wagon? it appears that there is no removable tailgate, which seems odd. I only have a few pics to go on, so I may be mistaken. I am considering making a copy of it, and thought it would be nice if it was an actual factory made item thanks I found a better pic, and it appears that the sides are removable, via wingnuts, making it a flat bed. that makes better sense, and would make a very handy setup.

Welcome :)

Welcome!

thats what I was thinking... it's crying out for a pulley on the end My distorted lateral thinking makes me wonder if it should be spinning backwards while you drive full pelt towards a large pond and see if you can bounce it across the water to a wall on the other side where it will sink and then explode

progress has been slow with so much going on this summer. just got the front steering components hooked up. Fabricated a new steering shaft from 3/4 stainless and added 2 shaft collars to fix it in place. I'll need to make a custom tie rod...

Nice horse. Great find for you and your boys. Start-em young!

Nice! Did any of the attachments come with it?

thats what I was thinking... it's crying out for a pulley on the end

The fumes from Steve's mug probably effected the electronics in your I-pad. It's toast!

#9 is Horse n Around Aka Louis Bolinger. Hot rod tractor and Diesels at my show.

A photo slip handed out to the red square members that asks for name, address, email/phone number and Red Square nickname is the way to go when you get over 75 people. Photo info and time on one side for reference and the other info requested and dropped in a box/can etc. in order to get in the photo! We use to do group shots with 750 kids from various schools in one hour and 15 minutes using this method. However, it looks like a wide angle panorama is going to have to be used next time or a helicopter. Great job and great to see the big Red Square turnout!

The K series will have a threaded section where the nut will hold the flywheel on. The magnum rather has a threaded hole in which a bolt holds the flywheel on. If you swap this hardware, then yes it will work. The flywheel won;t care if it is a nut or a bolt.

i have a 4 wheeled wagon but i'm afraid i might have lost it. after the whcc my daughter calls it, her wagon....... she was the girl on a C120 pulling the wagon around at the show the last couple of years now she thinks it's hers, she already had claimed my C120 now the wagon. whats a guy to do.... eric j

Mike Martino....you are the man!! Excellent job! I have all three books and I can honestly say this is for sure the biggest and best. Everything from the other two plus a lot of additional info. And it seems a lot less formal and more understandable. I can honestly say I learned some more things about the Pond family than I had learned from the other two. Great Job!!! Mike!

An interesting note about the Wheel Horse four wheeled cart ......... it was designed to carry 1 ton (2,000 pounds) of payload. Now ya'll think 'bout that when ya' load one up and hook it up to a Suburban 400 and start to drive down hill !!!! Wild Bill Richmond, VA

You have to be there. It's hard enough greeting 10 guys together for a pic. Getting 56 lined up was a small miracle!

Steve....I have an idea that might help a little. Might be stupid too..... If each member were given a jigger to hold like at an auction and have them write there user name on it. Then take the picture with the signs down.....then take another with them up. Yeah....stupid.....well...yeah.... lol....whats yer sign???? 38 is Jdog....I was minding the store at the time.....

I attended the Show (this year) for the first time. After learning there was not an entry fee, and seeing first hand how much work and planning went in to putting on such an event, I became a proud member of the WHCC. I will encourage all RS members who attend the big show but are not members of the WHCC to support them by also becoming a member of their club.

Wow...It looks like I missed the best darn show yet. I ended up having a friend from my Masonic Lodge pass last week and had to do his Masonic Memorial last Friday morning. THere was no way I could let his wife down by not being there as W.M. I needed so many things that I'm sure I could have picked up there. I definitely know there would have been a certain 16 Auto coming home with me and I bet I could have found a good motor for my 18 Auto too. Not only that but I bet I could have unloaded my 416 hydro and had a great time with my son to boot. He was just looking through the pics with me and remembering 2 years ago when we went.

I think your Gramps would be one happy dude if you at least kept a few of them. They brought him happiness and obviously meant a lot too him, I'm sure keeping a few will do the same for you.

My son ColeB and BrennanBo spent lots of time together burnin fuel and havin fun. Cole is 11 and he has been on a tractor since he was a few months old, he started riding on his own when he was 6, just like BrennanBo. Cole REALLY enjoys his Wild Bill time! That there is funny! (true too!)

Have ya got a pressure washer and old clothes and safety glasses or face shield? About 15 minutes if you do! (pretend that's a pressure washer!)

Dave, Jason is correct (as usual) the 520 Articulated is a Bob Rock creation that he custom built for me. The project was started 2 years ago and now that it has made its debut I'll do a build thread on it. There are several contribuitors that need to be thanked, but this tractor would not exist if not for Bob. Pics to come soon.

In my opinion, someone that is a WHCC member but not a RS member feels threatened because of our "closeness" to one-another. Our forum has allowed this friendship, and ability to help one-another with questions/answers/parts and other WH related matter. My guess would be that if WHCC had a forum like RS, 75-80% of the RS members would be on WHCC also. I doubt that anyone from WHCC feels RS is taking over their show.....unless you guys around the campfire had too much fun!

I think Karl hit the nail on the head. I'm sure there some club members who feel the show has almost gotten to big. Let's face it, it easier to put on a show with 100 tractors and 500 people visiting as opposed to 800 tractors and 1500 people attending. I was talking to Bob and Craig on Friday night during dinner. I said The tractors were only a small part of the reason I attended. The main reason is all the great people on Red Square. How else would a bunch of "grown ups" get all wound up and excited about driving half way across the country and attending a tractor show. I have a family reunion next month and attending the show felt like the same thing to me. I dare say without Red Square I wouldn't attend the show unless I had to to try to buy some much needed replacement parts. The friends I've made make me want to attend and I'm all ready planning next year's trip.

I spoke personally with Jeff Kane, former president of the club. The club does realize that RedSquare is an important part of the whole Wheel Horse hobby, The club is looking for ways to increase membership, and realizes that RedSquare can be a big help to that effort. As a result, the RedSquare group picture will actually be printed on the events schedule next year.

Wait a minute here. Those KT-17's were the worst engines Kohler ever offered until this new Kohler Courage came out ( you have to be courageous to buy one ). I have only seen one out of the four I've owned that didn't have a broken rod and it ran like $%^&. So there was nothing reliable about a KT-17. Let's get that straight while you are comparing. I have owned 6 Onans and yes three of them were bought with valve seats out. It's not that expensive to repair them if you have a good machine shop locally. 608 hours is pretty good for a tractor that could be up to 25 years old.

An Onan Perfomer twin should last at least 2000 hours if maintenance is done by the book. The Onan engines differ from the Kohler KT series twins in that they are aluminum crankcase/cylinder construction with a cast iron sleeve insert where the Kohler KT's have solid cast iron cylinders. This has demonstrated to be a reliability advantage for the Kohlers, as many Onans over time have had problems with their valve seats working loose from the soft aluminum deck surface, a problem that is difficult to repair. As Onan stopped making gas engines quite a while ago, parts for all Onan built engines are getting harder to find and much more expensive, prompting many with worn out Onans to re-power with other engines rather then rebiuld their old engine. This hasn't been much of an issue with Kohler as they have had much better company and aftermarket parts support. The Onans are/were smooth runners and very powerful when working right, but can be an expensive proposition once autumn years set in. -Mark-

I used the high temp locktite to put the seat back in, put the valve and spring back in, readjusted the valves, put everything else back together and let the locktite sit overnight. Started it up this morning and it seems to be running fine so far. What a great forum. I can't thank all of you enough for all of your help.

Your part numbers supersede to # 9819 which is no longer available. But you are in luck if you are still needing blades for your mower because I have 1 set of NOS original Wheel Horse blades. If you are looking message me and I will get back to you. Thanks Steve

Whatever it is, certainly looks GREAT!!!

Well shes finally a Roller again. Next will be the Steering/Dash Tower but thats gonna have to wait. Just to much to do this time of year. I will try to get some things done this Summer but other things take priority.

Thanks Keith. I sometimes think I put to much time in the details. I dont know that I will have the patience to continue with the detail as I progress.. I would like to have this thing done when the weather breaks and I can spray the sheet metal. I did a car 20 years ago and assisted on 2 others and I shutter to think about the man hours I spent doing it. I took this to this I was a lot younger then and it was a labor of love. It was a joy to do it but I never want to do it again. Garden tractors are more my size now.

My wife used to show tractors before I met her, and this helped me to become interested in them. After fixing up a basket case Economy tractor for myself, I decided that it would be nice if I had a small tractor that my son could learn on, and that we could bring along with us to the various farm and engine shows that we like to frequent. A '62 Wheel Horse 32R Lawn Ranger fit the bill perfectly. It has a small profile and size that matches well to younger riders. It was affordable, and parts are easy to find. Plus, I was able to make some modifications to it, so that my boy could operate it more safely, and develop a respect for working with machinery. It will also be a platform for learning basic mechanics, and the tractor can grow with him, and may eventually be fitted with a mower when he is old enough. I bought the old tractor online, and hauled it home in the back of a Jeep Cherokee...it fits nicely with the back seat folded down! I surprised my little boy with it when he arrived home from school...his face tells the whole story! He had to wait a year before we could get the tractor all fixed up and working again, but as he watched the progress on the tractor, I feel that it may have helped him understand a little about patience. The transmission was frozen solid when I picked it up due to water being inside of the case. After it thawed out, it was flushed out, and to save time, I just polished the shafts, replaced the seals, and repainted it. I am happy to say that it works pretty well. Here is a shot of a homemade gear puller being used to remove a stubborn brake drum... The engine was an H60 out of a parts Lawn Ranger. It runs OK and had good compression, so I just cleaned it up, and installed the basics, but it will need some work in the future. Here is a before and after shot...the large air cleaner was modified to fit after I could not find the correct one. The frame and body panels all received a light sandblasting and paint. I used Valspar restoration series paint, in IH Red color, and was very happy with the results. Three of the tires are originals, and just needed new inner tubes installed. The wheels were painted with Sherwin Williams Antique White spray paint. The seat is apparently off an older Wheel Horse, and is painted to match the wheels. The decals are from the folks at "Redo Your Horse". Here is the almost finished tractor, (they are never really finished, are they?!), and one happy little boy! Here is the most important modification I made so that it fits my son better. I welded up two diamond plate steps with guards on the rear of the step, and a tandem brake/clutch pedal control. The rear guards keep his feet from slipping rearward toward the tires, and the brake pedal is positioned so that he can reach it easily. The extra pedal can also be removed quickly by pulling a set screw, in case dad or mom want to take a spin, (although I am tall enough that it does not bother me to leave it on when I use the tractor). The steps are completely removable, and mount with existing holes in the frame. The second pedal is off of another early wheel horse. I look forward to any chance that I get to share time with my son, and I hope times that we spend with this little tractor become memories that will make him smile! Thanks to those on this website that helped with my questions and parts needs! Daniel

I have used rubber cement to cover the entire word.Just trim around the letters and then paint.when it's done drying just rub the cement off.