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Bet the wife wont ask me to help decorate the tree again!!! But after it was all done she kinda likes it. I wanted to hang some parts on it too, but that was out of the question.

congrats steve,looks like posting is best for you now that we all know logging is not in your future. good luck buddy still waiting for some xmas wine.

Enough of this restoration stuff Duke. I WANT A VIDEO OF IT CHUCKIN SNOW COMPLETE WITH A YARD STICK TO SHOW SNOW DEPTH AND A 100' TAPE MEASURE TO SHOW DISTANCE! I have very little patience........... Mike...........

Then I have been blessed... 'cause the wife, and two Techys I have require minimal maintenance, and are faithful to the end.

My father passed away on Oct 30th 2012 after a long battle with kidney and heart disease he was 81,dad was the first to collect the Wheel Horse tractors and passed it on to my wife and I and our two sons to this wonderful hobby.Dad and my mom really enjoyed driving around at the shows looking for treasures and sharing time with our friends and family. As you can see from the photo that they really enjoyed themselves,dad's tractor is now in my collection and will be at every show that we attend in memory of him,he will be truly missed...

I posted an add in the classifieds looking for a smaller 'horse for my 9 yr old son for Christmas a few weeks ago and Fun Engineer answered the call with a 1967 Lawn Ranger. We set a time and agreed to meet at his place. So this morning I picked up my buddy Sam and headed north with my smoker trailer as the utility and my ramps are in the UP hunting.. Ten miles out we were in white out conditions on icey roads, only 50 miles to go. Engaged 4 wheel drive in Kalkaska and never topped 40mph the rest of the way. For those contemplating "borrowing" Dave's tractors while he's gone (a nice set by the way), good luck finding them. You were right Dave, gps is even screwy up there! The gps lost it's mind, but a phone call told us we were within a mile and he talked us in. What we found was a really nice guy with a 3 car man cave to die for! And this little guy with a deck and snow blade. We tried getting him started and bs'd for an hour, haggled for 30 seconds, then loaded him up. After strapping him down, we hit the road for home. The weather had warmed slightly and the roads were in better condition. About 4 miles north of Kalkaska, we found ourselves sideways. Completely sideways, both ways several times. My truck decided not to die an untimely death in the middle of nowhere and straightened itself out, although the trailer wanted to continue to play for a bit. Pulled over to check the trailer and contemplate hitting the dollar store for new undies and toilet paper! We made it back to South Boardman, put the Ranger in another buddies barn and beat feet back home with no other troubles. I sure hope my little guy loves this one as much as he loves mine! Will keep updating this as the seat cover needs to be installed, fender welded and the carb cleaned. I have a set of v-bar chains for his 4 wheeler that I might be able to modify to fit. All hopes are having it running so he can plow with daddy on Christmas. :greetings-clappingyellow:

make a small peice of chain that hooks to the plow lift bracket and then a hook to the frame,pull the plow up or leave it on the 2x4,chain it temporary,push her out side and release the chain,which can be done when the hydro lift pulls her up,the chain will slacken so you can remove it

went and visited ryan (rydogg) today and hauled home a 857 and a 657

Another update. Basically the tractor is now finished. I have a choke cable soaking in some derusting liquid. As soon as the cable is free again it will be installed. I took the 312 out for a little drive around the property this afternoon, and it ran just fine. Unfortunately the 42" deck I thought was good is not what I thought it was. I need another deck. PM me if you have one I can get locally. Here are todays pics for your viewing pleasure;

Not unless you're riding with Bond...James Bond...in a red AMC.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright; The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light, And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout; But there is no joy in Mishawaka - The mighty Cavemen have struck out. Of course this is not entirely true. The Cavemen came up short- they lost 59-24. They stayed even with Cathedral until the 3rd quarter-but they just had too much speed. They had the best athletes Indianapolis had to offer, because as a Catholic school, they can rcrute all over the city. No excuses- our guys give thier all. Really made them remember the name Mishawaka Cavemen. Our quarter back- won the Esqew award for Mental Attitude. All of our young men are better men because of the great experience- This stuff is tough on this old Illini- but my heart is FULL for what this State Championship quest, and the game of Football, have given my grandson Trevor to build his character on. Thanks for pulling for us- Al Sorry about the font size-maybe Karl can fix it-Al http://s267.beta.pho...dal026.mp4.html

Santa knows thats the right place for the little Ranger to be :occasion-santa:

Congrats! on 4000 Steve, wow thats almost as many as you are so tell us what you do in your free time :teasing-blah: and how many (your my favorite) that would be Sally

I got my weights the on the cheap. Found a nasty looking but running Electro that had the rears bolted on. Came with a broken blower, semi ratty cab and a good deck. Trashed the blower ans sold the Elecrto , deck and cab for $50.00 more than I paid for the pile. Kept the weights. Saw an ad in Buffalo for a set of fronts all painted up for $60.00. Drove thru lake effect squalls to get those. Total investment; $10.00 about $40 in gas and about 6 hrs in time. :thumbs:

My new rear skins came in yesterday so my TORO dealer mounted em up (two old tires off the rims and two new ones on for $25, thought that was a good price). My plan is to not have to use chains for plowing so I went with an aggresive tread 23x10.5x12 tire mounted on wide 8.5" rims off a GT1848. Heres the pics I know you guys gotta have! I took plenty . Mike...........

This was forwarded to me in an email today FWIW thought I would share. For those of you who actually try to repair some older and rusted equipment, the following just might help you out. Worth the short read. Penetrating Oils Machinist’s Workshop Mag™ recently published some information on various penetrating oils that I found very interesting. Some of you might appreciate this. The magazine reports they tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist. They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrates with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a “scientifically rusted†environment. Penetrating Oils ........... Average torque load to loosen* No Oil used .................... 516 pounds WD-40 ....................... ... 238 pounds PB Blaster ..................... 214 pounds Liquid Wrench .................127 pounds Kano Kroil ...................... 106 pounds ATF & Acetone Mix............53 pounds The ATF-Acetone mix is a “home brew†mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note this “home brew†released bolts better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that “Liquid Wrench†is almost as good as “Kroil†for about 20% of the price. Steve from Godwin-Singer says that ATF & Acetone mix is best, but you can also use ATF and lacquer thinner in a 50-50 mix.

Hi everyone I just joined the forum because I just have purchased a used 414-8 from a local lawnmower shop for $800 and would love to show you! Does anyone have any more info about the 414-8? I was told that it is very durable with a heavy duty rear and a full cast iron engine/flywheel. I live on quite the steep hill so this tractor was very appealing as I have burned up some cheap tractors that used hydrostatics in the past. However, I do also own a 212-H that I use to mow my extremely steep front bank and the hydro on that is still going! Enjoy the pictures! I just waxed it

Hi guys, I am near here and have really enjoyed looking over this forum for the past couple of weeks. I recently picked up a really nice C81 for a steal (all it needed was a starter and fuel). I picked it up as a project but as it turned out it was not much of a project. Now that I have that one all ready for work it has me looking for another one to tinker with over the winter. I have a chance to pick this 633 up. He says the motor turns over. It is about 50 miles from me and I am curious what you guys think its worth. I know it has a Kohler K141 and parts are kind of scarce for them. I figure if nothing else this tractor would be good trade barter for something newer. I know its a collectible and the hood, fenders, seat, steering wheel, fuel tank, dash, all look original and straight. What do you guys say? All replies are welcome.

On the tractor 10/20 min of run/cool then 20/20 then 30/20

I'm sure that tree, couple sugar cookies, and a cool glass of milk... are going to make the Santa very happy to visit your home. :handgestures-thumbsup:

OK...you guys win...I've decided to keep both them...I'm going to use the B-80 as a dedicated mower/trailer puller and use the C-100 as my plow machine...Here's the "family" picture.. The B-80 is a 74...The C-100 is a 75

OK drumroll please.............................. Is that Wheel Horse the rare and elusive "Swayback" edition?????

I think we are all waiting for that :eusa-whistle:

Silly question but this is my first year with the hydro lift equipped 520. As the Winter sets in and I have the 48 plow on the 520, most folks have advised to move the rig to the outside to cool down the snowblade and start up with the hydro disconnected, once warmed up and all the juices flowing, engage the hydro and go. how does everyone move their rig outside since the implements are left in the down position at rest. I can't start up inside the garage due to fumes and sleeping 'yard apes' above the garage. plus with the rubber tire chains on the 520 is a bit reluctant being pushed. perhaps a fabbed furniture dolley with casters that are not fixed, to rest the blade on? The Frau wasn't too thrilled when I suggested she can lift up on the snowblade as I pushed from behind (ah, behind the tractor that is). the snowthrower will be on the good old B-80 with wheel weights. :occasion-xmas:

for 100 id allready own it,oh and welcome to red square

Update.... that large white cloth like object you saw going flying by was a Towel... thats right, I surrender, give up, roll over, all of the above. I am out of my comfort zone screwing with the timing/coil on a Tecumseh. Some may think that makes me a coward... thats fine too. Between all of the headache pills, coffee, time and parts I am done.... It has been dropped off at a dealer friend and i will update with what he comes up with as the ultimate solution. Meanwhile I am going to go out and hug one of my Kohlers and salute one of my Briggs both of which never fail to start and get the job done. Tony

I tell the members here all the time how good LE stuff is and everyone is like Thats OK Steve. You and I will be out enjoying our Wheel Horses while everyone else is hammering new bearings in a dead horse :deadhorse:

Ditto on pushing out the old grease. For the deck spindles though, I give each one three full squirts every time I cut grass or every 4 hours, whichever comes first. BTW, I've never had to replace a deck spindle. I use grease made by Lubrication Engineers, but I think I've used Lucas in the past with good results. Although when all else fails, cheap low quality grease is better than no grease.

Steve, I am also pullin for the Bears and a Packers loss (go ummmmm Giants...yea that is the team of the day), the Bears shouldn't have a problem as long as Cutler stays healthy.

I just added some pics of the final missing part- the airfilter cover painted by my daughter- I really like like it!!!!! Thanks to everyone for all the pos comments- glad you all like it- will be something different than 4x4's to take to the shows next season!

Don, that shed the best little score I've made to date...$700 delivered, and placed... worth every minute I spent scouring the CL ads for it. You would be suprised the red stuff that fits it there.

Packers play a real smash mouth team today while the Bores play a team with a QB who can't throw over 30 yards and a wussy DE who looks like a dork with a cowboy hat on

I can't honestly say if it is there on the first 301's. The oldest one I have here right now is 1968 and it already has a gear-drive starter. :thumbs2:

I'd offer $100 and see where it gets you. It's definitely worth more in pieces than it is whole, but that's not how a species is preserved. :disgust:

That thing is Wicked!! Matt :flags-texas:

It sounds like you just need to leave it outside, and cover with a tarp, I know most of my 520's will not even move for the first 2-5 min.(depending on temp) of running, and most of them will not lift the attachments in that time, mine in the winter are in the barn I open the door start them and walk away, in that time I do some shovel work around doors and such that I can't get to with the tractor.

That thing is perfect man!! :auto-layrubber:

Congrats Steve!

It Rained nearly all day yesterday , started off quite light rain , then it started pouring down constantly. The water is now very close to coming in the house . At 5 am this morning i checked the water level & i checked again at 6.30 am and it had risen by 3 inches , now by my calculations if it continues to rise at that rate i would say that i by 8 / 9 oclock this morning i will be writing the next post with a snorkel & wet suit on . So if you dont here from me to day will someone call the coast guard.

I haven't seen it yet but looking forward to it. It's all the buzz in these parts because they filmed it here in Richmond. For about three months all you ever seemed to hear was: "Hey, look over there at that table...it's Steven SPIELBERG!" "Wow! I just sold a pack of gum to Daniel Day Lewis!" "What the...Sally Field just cut me off in traffic!!!" Kinda' silly, but kinda fun too.

Siggghhhhhh... I know the problem is its not a Kohler..... But show me ONE Ariens snow thrower that came from the factory with anything but a Tecumseh.... For cryin out loud Briggs made it easy to put in electronic ignition and never look back----- did Tecumseh NOPE... did Tecumseh make a carb worth a fiddly FRIDGERATOR nope.... Is Tecumseh out of Business... YEP! When they run they run decent and really where a good cold weather snow thrower motor... but man what a finiicky pita they can be and god help you if you let the gas sit over 15 minutes in the carb... it will be green and plugged and not run before you can blink.... I have to do some more research before I pull the coil... that might be lights out for me... every time I have pulled a timing plate on a Tecumseh it never ran again... Tony

Okay, I got my new stub shaft (dowel pin) yesterday. It is 3/8" x 3/4", heat treated alloy steel. Got it from Fastenal for $.65. Kohler wants around $20.00. I promised to document the process of removing the old shaft and inserting the new with only common hand tools, so here it is. Here is the worn shaft that needs to be replaced. First step is to remove the welch plug. This is easily done by tapping it from behind (through the crankcase) with a rod or screwdriver. After it is removed, it's on to the shaft. The back end of the shaft sticks through the wall of the block to the inside of the valve spring/breather area. Only about 1/16" is visible. Not knowing whether or not the original shaft was tapered or had splines, I decided to push it out from the back side. Because there is no access to be able to tap the shaft straight-on, I inserted an 11/16" socket into the opening and used it as a block to rest my 1/4" drive rod against. This prevents the rod from slipping off the shaft when tapping it with the hammer. A couple of good taps and the old shaft is out. Since this rod was not tapered and did not have splines, I could have gone in through the welch plug hole and pushed it all the way through, into the breather area. Anyway, now it was time to insert the new shaft. Gripping it with a pair of needle nose pliers, I inserted it through the welch plug hole and into the hole in the block. I then took my 3/8" rod and carefully tapped the shaft into the hole until there was 3/8" protruding. Next I installed the governor gear to check for fit. No wobble at all. And that's that. Pretty simple fix. After I am finished reassembling the engine, I will install a new welch plug.

Thanks everyone!! I look forward to mowing for the last time this season with it sometime tomorrow or Sunday. Wheel-N-It thanks for the Lucas recommendation! I have used their products in the past and look forward to draining the transmission oil and putting in Lucas 90w.

LOL… I went to look at an 8 speed tranny that I was contemplating upgrading into my B-80…The guy was asking 90 bucks for it with new bearings and seals…He also had this bare-bones, but complete C-100 for sale for 325 which I tried to ignore. After realizing I’d need to make a few modifications to make the tranny work in the B-80…I figured why not buy the 8 speed tranny that came attached to the C-100… After a quick spin(it runs great)… I made an offer which was quickly rejected..It seemed the someone already had first dibs on the tractor and the seller seemed positive it was a done deal…So I passed on the tranny and left a standing offer for the tractor. Late today the guy calls me and says the deal fell through and the tractor is mine for the taking. Gave 300 for it…which at the time didn’t seem like a lot considering I was gonna pay 90 for the tranny. Picking it up this weekend. As I said I don’t really need this tractor…I have too many other interests to start collecting a herd of these things…Not sure what I’m going to do with it, except spend more time and money setting it up for plowing or snow blowing.. I guess this holiday weekend is a good time to give my thanks to all of you here on the forum for putting me in this situation..

I got 1/2 my team ready, stretched its legs a little pushing the burned leaves pile around some, then put on the doors and buttoned up the front... One more cutting in the front then the blower will be put on as the back up.

I dunno craig, but you change yer handle more than Ole Duke Changes Me Shorts! :jaw:

I didn't take pictures of the machined 1" spindle (sleeve) as it is the same picture as the web site at http://www.p.f.engin....com/photo.html . Just scroll down to the work ascribed to Doug H. I got the idea from Don1977's pictures I ran across on an earlier search. I cut the original 8.5" Northern spindle down to 4.75" in length for my application as I needed to ensure I kept enough room so the hub grease seal would not to hit the welded washer on the original splindle. My guess is that the length of WH spindles vary by model so you'd have to use your own judement on the proper sleeve length for your application. I carefully spot welded the end of the sleeve to the spindle so I could reverse it if I needed to. If I have an issue with the spot weld breaking, I'll cross drill the sleeves like Don1977did and weld them solid to the spindles. I thought about using 3/4" sealed ball bearings in the hubs like dbartlett1958 did instead of the tapered rollers that came with them, but I didn't want to spend more $$ for bearings and I would have had to weld up and refinish my original spindles where they appear to have gone years without grease. Finally, the steering. I used 8 x 3.75 rims - same as original. The new hub/tire assembly sits about a 1/4" wider per side giving me a 1/2" wider track. The turning radius might be slightly wider but nothing hits or rubs.

The T usually connects to the tran mount There is a hole on the either sides almost to the top. The T goes across the mount with the arm facing forward and the curve going downward Duane

That's a good lookin you got there! Definitely a good engine, that's the engine I now have on my B-80, and its a powerhouse. Matt :flags-texas: