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I post on here once and awhile and post some pictures but i hardly get a response from anyone. Is there anyone on here that is actually interrested in the older "rare" tractors? I posted a picture of a 1946 Pond lever steer which is the grand daddy of all other Wheel Horse tractors and I think got like 5 or so comments, and then some random person posts a picture of like a 300 series and it gets like 30 replys. In the garage there is the 46 lever steer, (2) 55 ride away seniors, (8) 55-57 rj35s, (2) pond walkers, (3) rj58s and a 401 but people look past those and would rather look at a Raider 10 or a C120 or some newer tractor. I dont wanna seem like a prick in nice terms but i dont see what people see in the newer tractors. Im not saying they arent nice tractors or nice to have but i believe the older tractors are looked over. Im only 26 years old and i take pride in my tractors and enjoy the old hard to find tractors but it seems like no one seems to care about them anymore. I was reading the posts about wheel horses vs other brands and it kinda got the idea to post this. What im looking for is feedback i guess of why do the newer tractors get so much attention?

If you get rid of the hot water heater I bet you could squeeze another horse into the corner..... priorities.

Here's a pic from a "300" Series. :hide:

cruising the list I found thing, original owner, all original manuals, motor was replaced with new kohler crate replacment motor 10yrs ago. Got a great deal, all it needed was a greasing, oil change, gas, and the tires pumped up... Just sweeped the whole lawn with it on leaf duty. Due to this, the 417 project will be on hold or sold not sure yet. This is a sweet little worker.

I would guess that maybe 10% of members here are actual collectors so not too many people have experience with the rare ones. Many more people own a 300 series or a C series type tractor so they can relate to it more, thus answer and/or ask more questions about it. Also certain or longtime members know more members here that they have dealt with or are friendly with and a bunch of them will respond to each other's posts. I would bet at any tractor show they will walk right by the newer stuff to check out your very nice collection! Just a guess but that's the way I see it There's no rhyme, reason or conspiracy here $0,02

Ya,,,I'll give it a shot. You have a huge espresso machine in your storage space and you can't use it because it is getting covered with laundry. :)

I had a quick look at raising the seat to try and stop the cramp in my legs while driving it. I didn't get cramp instantly, which was a good sign, but how was I off for foot and leg space?? Foot space was just about ok, but leg space on the steering levers was a bit tight.. Even more so with the levers all the way back... A few tweaks of the levers may be needed! I think I have worked out how to stretch the fenders now. It's too hard to explain so you will have to wait until I start on them. But as long as the arrow lines up with the edge of the foot plates then my idea should work.. It does however mean the edges of the fenders won't sit where they should do on a WH which is about half way over the tire, but there is no other way I can get around it.. I think it looks ok anyway. The fenders are going to have to wait a few weeks though as I might of accidentally clicked on a "buy it now" button on the video camera of my dreams instead of buying the steel I need So I needed to find something else to do on the project... You can start cheering now Matt After some mocking up to get measurements, the masking tape proved to be too wide. A couple of squares were cut from this 8mm thick plate. The first one on the lathe.. Quite a while later... The first slice off the ever shortening pillar drill leg. The inside done. Can you guess what it is yet?? I still need to remove plenty of material from the groove but it's heading in the right direction. Oh, and six somethings arrived the other day... These should help out with traction There you go chap's, an up to date thread once again.

I have to say I have a good one. Told her I'm getting our 9yr old a tractor for Christmas and her reply was " cool, he will be in hog heaven. He's such a little you." Found a built in reason to get more! :banana-tux:

Right now it is Saturday, November 17 2012 at 11:20...right now the answer is 4, 876 ways. :)

That would be rare, usually a wife wants the " right" answer, regardless of wether it is " correct" or not. Lol

Soooo simple to control these creatures. Too easy, really!

so a while back i saw an 8hp motor pop up on craigslist for $25. talked the seller said it ran fine and was used to run a hydraulic pump for his wood splitter till he replaced it with a larger engine. The engine is an FG300, bearings in the crank, aluminum block with steel sleeve, electronic ignition. i have both a 753 and 854 with strong motors but they smoke bad and need a rebuild. i was wondering if anyone knows anything about this motor as i can't find a ton of info or a manual for it online. it has the right shaft size and as you can see in the image it sits pretty good on the frame when the tank is removed. everything fit under the hood and the only real issue appears to be the air filter. if anyone knows anything about this engine or has a good place to get some info that would be great. thanks Justin

Well i have got an idea so i just had to test it out to see if it works.. I have installed an electric winch on my raider 10 to lift the snowblade/blower/deck and also the rear hitch.. i have put it where the battery is on it so i have to put the battery under the seat on it:) Here are some pict of it so far.. and a small vid of how it lift.. Thanks Lars

A family friend told me about a lady who has a wheel horse for sell because she needed $$. She says her Dad has owed since new sometime in the 60s and her ex husband had started to restore it. I bought what you see. I got pieces and parts and parts and pieces. I normally just buy Cubs but decided to take a chance on this. I found a piece a paper in a box with the tractor with the following numbers written on it. HM-80-156063F SER 1042-D These are hand written and hard to read.What is it?? Whats it worth? Anybody interested in buying any of it? Thanks for the help!

CAVEMEN WON GUYS! GOING TO THE BIG DANCE NEXT SATURDAY @ LUCAS OIL STADIUM INDY-FOR THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP! MAN-AM I A PROUD GRANDPA & A PROUD CAVEMAN. POLICE ESCORT BACK HOME TO MISHAWAKA Sending pics soon as I can stop shaking-cold and excited-Thanks-Al

Geeze, look at that! You gotta admit...that little guy is so much cooler than those old yeller Cubs.

Not everyone can relate to the older tractors, for the most part, most guys won't get the chance to own what you have. How did you manage to amass such a collection at such a young age? Like the guys on American Pickers say, ITS ALL ABOUT THE STORY. I can find pictures all over the web of old tractors to look at if I want to. With no story attached to them at the end of the day they are just pictures of nice tractors. Me, I like them all.

I feel left out -- what the heck does this mean? :) :)

if we had no racking, I think we would have them outside, and thats just not safe. LOL ~Jake the barn is starting to fill back up, we counted 20 of them on the floor, 5 beaters outside, and about 6 at home.

I was thinking of that heater also. Park a horse to close to that and WHOOSH!!!!!!!! I had a 2 old customers lose their businesses that way. You need more room. I'll take the Thumper out of your way so you don't get hurt.

May need to talk to Jake about getting some racks? :eusa-think:

my latest horse is a 310-8. i put the rear discharge deck on it & it is now the MAIN leaf sweeper tractor! they just sip gas. yours looks outstanding, and i wish you a long time enjoying it. heres a picture of mine

I know what would fix it. a 100x100 pole barn! Then you could have hundreds of tractors! :ychain:

Uuum...having problems locating your engine stand amungst all the other red items??? Hint...it's in pix 2 area. :laughing-rolling:

Wild guess that you're eyes are bigger than your stomache...IE...Not enough storage space for your addiction??

I don't see a problem everything looks RED to me.

Got the trans installed today, thanks to all! Just need to install the tires and test drive her. I will take some pictures and post them here when I get a chance. Thanks again!

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I just ask my wife. "SHE IS ALWAYS RIGHT PERIOD" So no matter how many ways I have to ask, I always get the right answer.

I have 3 tons of wood pellets, 20 gallons of gas for the generator and my freebe C-121 is ready for work.

I acquired my C-125 about a year ago. The tractor it's self is in pretty good condition for it's age. The cutter deck was something else though. So a bit of rebuilding had to be done. First strip the deck. Deck was used as pattern for new top Then old top cut out. New top welded in and painted. All re-assembled. I fitted two new spindles as they got damaged getting them out. Also renewed all the bearings.

Sorry.. I will attempt to update more often to keep them pesky squirrels away Right, more metalwork taking place and more captive nuts.. This time they have been welded inside the flange on the left side foot plate. So the new side cover can be bolted on.. I thought it would be good to make this cover easily removable should I need to get access to the spool valve in a hurry. After a bit of fun drilling holes in the foot plate to match these threaded holes in the chassis.. The side cover had it's welds dressed down and given a lick of paint. It's only lightly bolted in here as the paint was still quite tacky. Another captive nut ready to be welded on a bit of angle... Welded on and welded onto the chassis. This will give a bit of extra strength under the foot plate and stop it from bending over time as they do. More steel being added, the belt guard this time.. It just needs a little shaping and the square hole moving. Shaped and ground down, bit of a shame I managed to add to much metal and warp the side of the cover at the same time! So off came the belt guard to be sorted.. Straightening was easy, but I trimmed too much steel off!! So the trimmings were tack welded back on minus the 1mm from cutting it off.. Look at that, a perfect fit now.. Looking even better after grinding the welds down and a splash of paint.

Well, it could be...How many cheese heads does it take to......???? The real question is : how many potato heads will it take to keep the Bears in first? :) :)

I don't know that for a fact that it will weaken it. My opinion is from what I have experience in the past with other type of equipment. When you go messing around with changing or compromising the strength of what a part was designed at, some point you will pay for it in ether spend up wear or a part failure.

With that Onan not very many trips around. Never seen a Motor on a Garden Tractor use so much gas as that Onan does. Well maybe a pulling engine but not one in normal use. Just wait till you tie that 2 stage on there Duke and tie into some heavy deep snow. That Onan won't even grunt the only thing that will be pulled down is the fuel Gage. Instead of MPH measurement its " How many inches of snow thrown per gallon" Compared to that Kohler there will be no comparison. I love Kohler's but when that 20HP kicks in the snows gona fly or you will break something. There will be no bogging down. I got to get my snow removal team ready down here because when you start thrown snow up there with the new chucker it will probably land down here. I can see it now on the local news " No lake effect snow tonight just the Duke Snow Chucker effect for all the Indiana counties. Duke will be blowin snow tonight so you Hoosiers when you wake up in the morning will find a new blanket of a foot deep snow courtesy of Duke and the Chucker.

I remember them days surfing the web looking for info on my 877 . think it may have been on repairing the hydro control lever. 6yrs later and it's still not fixed....LOL . when i first joined it was pretty much karl and sparky posting . glad i stuck around , it feels more like 10yrs ago .

Bah Humbug!!!!

The next day was mostly spent stacking logs away.. A job that I hate doing as it always knackers me out so I have to do it slowly! But I did manage to get some more metal work done. Before I got too carried away with the side cover/foot plate the battery tray was cut out of here.. And plonked here.. It might just fit with the "extra" metal removed. A while later the foot plate had been re-angled at the front and back and marked out for cutting. Trimmed and a flange welded on the inside. The top left side needs a little sorting still, but as I'm not sure whats happening with it yet, it can wait until I do know. A little trim for the side cover.. And it was a perfect fit.. Me happy By this point in the day my brain and body were too tired to tackle anything complex, so while waiting for the second log delivery to arrive I dragged the "cobbled together" tracks in the shack.. And reduced them to their component parts.. The next day... Yep you guessed it... Stacking more logs away.... Aaahhh... You can almost smell it A job well done by the 312.. Even if it did struggle to get through this very wet muddy mess with 3/4 ton of logs in tow.. I finally found the limits of the mighty 312 with it's bigger ballasted tires and extra weight from the roll bar and battery box! Loads more to come later, I'm off to the shack now to stand in front of the lathe for a while :D

I could answer anynumber of ways. The wife on the other hand wants the correct answer. :angry-cussingwhite:

I have one and did get to use it once - but only because it was attached to my 704 when I bought it. I used it only because I wanted to legitimately say I did. It worked well, but I'll use my newer throwers so the ST-3072 doesn't get destroyed. Although I have never tried it on an 854, I suspect the gearbox might hit the side of the longer hood.

Strange how those things just "follow you home" isn't it?? . Looks like it will bolt onto a 854,753,etc. I have one on my 753. Haven't really used it yet, but didn't stop me from rebuilding it either. (picture before the rebuild)

You should try to buy that Javelin Craig. It's got the right name and a TECKY!!!

OH easy! Because is the only LAGT AMC made.

Only one! Jesus is the answer. Mark.

Well, it could be...How many cheese heads does it take to......????

Starting back in the 50's we run a Wheel Horse dealership out of are farm. By the time I was in 3 grade I was working helping assemble the new tractors out of crate, other than get in the way of my Dad and Grandpa I manage to put the front wheels on. Then when I got older I was the guy who would take customers out and demon straight some of the attachments. So I guess you can say I have been around them my whole life. There were other tractors that came to the shop for repair. Some of the tractors were nice tractors and had some nice features but Wheel Horse was always the favorite and always the by far the easiest to work on.

Ya I found that last night searching the web for info. I got ahold of the original designer of the Heald Hauler tonight, "Ron Kimball". He told me quite a bit about it & is sending me a manual, plans with a wiring schematic. Less than 200 of these made, built in 77, with a top speed of 10MPH! I'll have to make sure I keep my Red Square hat on extra tight when I open it up. The wife & I cruised down to her parents place tonight on it...where my father inlaw teased me about the speed. So it's no race car, but it will be handy hauling things around the yard...without burning gas. Next time my father inlaw runs out of fuel on his Z turn....maybe I'll be nice enough to run some more out to him.

We are sick people,sick sick people.

Im ready I also have a snow blower for the CUB if needed and a plow on my Suburban not pictured