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Hi guys, have some really nice weather here today so I decided to get a few of the horses out today. I'll let the pictures speak for themselves. ~Jake from left to right. 55, early 56, early 58, 59, 59 with a 400 hood, 401, 702, b80, and c120

Hey a postage stamp yard is no reason Not to have a horse or 12 ! It literally takes me more time moving stuff than it does to mow! Less yard = bigger Garage & less time mowing = more time playing!

"A Veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to the 'United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'†My branch, the U. S. Coast Guard has for the official motto: " Semper Paratus" (Always Ready.) The Coast Guard's unofficial motto is "You have to go out, you don't have to come back." The history of the unofficial motto dates from the United States Life Saving Service and to the men who launched small boats to row out to attempt rescues. "A ship was stranded off Cape Hatteras on the Diamond Shoals and one of the lifesaving crew reported the fact that this ship had run ashore on the dangerous shoals. The old skipper gave the command to man the lifeboat and one of the men shouted out that we might make it out to the wreck but we would never make it back. The old skipper looked around and said, 'The Blue Book says we've got to go out and it doesn't say a damn thing about having to come back.'" Etheridge was not exaggerating. The Regulations of the Life-Saving Service of 1899, Article VI "Action at Wrecks," section 252, page 58, state that: "In attempting a rescue the keeper will select either the boat, breeches buoy, or life car, as in his judgment is best suited to effectively cope with the existing conditions. If the device first selected fails after such trial as satisfies him that no further attempt with it is feasible, he will resort to one of the others, and if that fails, then to the remaining one, and he will not desist from his efforts until by actual trial the impossibility of effecting a rescue is demonstrated. The statement of the keeper that he did not try to use the boat because the sea or surf was too heavy will not be accepted unless attempts to launch it were actually made and failed (underlining added), or unless the conformation of the coast--as bluffs, precipitous banks, etc.--is such as to unquestionable preclude the use of a boat." This section of the Regulations remained in force after the creation of the Coast Guard in 1915. The new Instructions for United States Coast Guard Stations, 1934 edition, copied Section 252 word for word as it appeared in 1899. [1934 Instructions for United States Coast Guard Stations, Paragraph 28, page 4]. A salute to the Coasties and other service men and women; and a sailor's prayer for those who lost their lives at sea.

I met with Charles today and we did the old swaparoo. I got a 633 and a 61 Burban and lots of "extra's" outta the deal, he got a C-161. The plans for the 633 are to try to find a coil for it, (hint hint) get her going and leave the tractor as it is as a worker, hauling fire wood and pushing snow as my main snow machine. From my own experience, the 633 will handle most of the snow that we get. Anything the 633 can't handle I'll have the 520 on stand by. The plans for the Burban are a custom job for my son Cole, nothing crazy, just custom enough. This will keep him off My 60 Suburban Custom. The Lauson won't be used, I have a nice lower hr. K91 Kohler that is going to take its place. I pulled the deck and motor off the Burban today and degreased the tractor. I'm going to do all fab work first and then take it all apart for rebuild and restore.

Sorry Jim, but I only had one and she is very happily married. I remember the good things my Father-in-Law did for me way back when I was younger. He was a good man, and I always appreciated the things he did for me. So I make it a point to do the same for my Son-in-Law. Besides, if I can get him addicted to Wheel Horses (like the rest of us here), then I'll have some help and good company working on them later on as my collection grows :wh:

Past and present.

Got any more single daughters? :ychain:

Nice haul, maybe the SIL will return the favor and get you a can of red paint for your horse trailer this X-mas.

Looks like today and tomorrow might just be all the indian summer we get this year. Unless you own a Techie too...then it's an indian summer all year long.

Thank you, racinfool is helping me out, appreciate it!

Re-storing a 67 model 857 and I am looking for an owners manual pdf file would be great if can help me smitty46933@indy.rr.com

Break one off on the other side.... Clean it really well and inspect it closely and you keep it and use it.... I have a few flywheels I would sell if you want one that's not broken..... But please please please make sure thier is no cracks or fractures before you reinstall the one you have.....

Looks like a Springfield. It would have a tag under a bolt on the seat spring that says 'Quick Manufacturing'. The fenders give it away Here's mine:

Love the classic lines that 633 has.

The engine serial number denotes 1984 and that particular spec number was used on the 1985 416-8 ~ which would be model number 31-16K801 Thanks Terry! That was my guess. Other than outdoor storage the past couple of years, owner says engine was serviced regularly. Other than a jump start, my spare battery is shot. Running great, at the stand still. I topped off the oil but, will change that along with the rear gear lube. So far, so good. 40 years ago, was introduced to WH. Been "dopey" since. However, I only have four so a minor "infection." Van, that would be military time, 0600 hours in the A of M. Once a Jarhead, always a Jarhead!

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Nice. And wheel weights too! More than enough to get him hooked!

Sorry Jim, but I only had one and she is very happily married. I remember the good things my Father-in-Law did for me way back when I was younger. He was a good man, and I always appreciated the things he did for me. So I make it a point to do the same for my Son-in-Law. Besides, if I can get him addicted to Wheel Horses (like the rest of us here), then I'll have some help and good company working on them later on as my collection grows That's some good thinkin' right there.

Van, That's a very nice looking tractor. Looks like it has the newer Kohler Magnum engine on it too. I think that style sheet metal with the Wheelhorse decals and brighter red paint looks better than the later Toro Wheelhorse decals and darker Toro red paint. I have a rear discharge deck and like it, but it can make a mess of the rear end and wheels. However, you can trim on both sides and don't have to worry about tossing a rock against the house or car - and you can pull a sweeper while mowing. Good luck, Bill

Thanks for the heads up I corrected the sheet, well at least that shows I aint tryin to screw no one outta nothin! Now excuse me back to the O.R. Dance. :banana-linedance: :banana-linedance: :banana-linedance: :banana-linedance: Cheers ~Duke "GO BLUE"

Cutlas, give us a before and after pic of the WD40 bath method. I love WD40, and buy it buy the gallon.

I love a day that requires the use of more than one Wheel Horse! :wh: :wh:

I did that with a basket ball on a door of my Explorer. Just put it in the door a pumped it up,pushed 90% of the dent out.

YEAH, GRADER BLADE!!! :wwp:

Nice tractor but that is a knarly trailer!

I did not need another horse but I could not pass on this one. Saw this on Craigslist, a 1995 416-8 with 42" rear discharge recycler deck. There were no pictures but when I saw the price I got on the phone and I was the first to get to the seller and I told him I will take it. The seller thought it had a Kohler engine and his reason for selling was he wanted something with a cup holder. Here it is: I could not post more pictures but the model number is 73420, serial number 5900554. There are only 319 hours on the clock and other than a few nicks on the front wheels there is not a spot of rust on the tractor or the deck. The seat has a few rips and the treads on the foot rests are gone. The twin ONAN is clean and starts and runs perfect. It was only an hour away and I picked it up last night so it would not get into someone else's hands. The price? $400.00

Bob, I only got four of today's games, not five. And now, back to the "over- rated" dance Go Blue!! -BK

At least it wasnt an RJ With regards to insurance coverage - I asked my agent if I needed a rider for my tractors and she said no as long as they are collectibles and not regular use machines. Collectible tractors are covered under my homeowners as long as I could prove they existed (ie. pictures or carcass).

very nice tractor. i wish my farther in law bought me wheel horses.

WOW!!! Your a horse thief!! Great deal!

I knew it! I thought that was you Joe.

Did you forget about last week's game already? They say that short term memory is the first thing to go. Do you remember what the second thing was? Uhh, err, ahem, sorry... It was your eyesight! Oh, I know what you're going to say... :music-rockout:

well looks like my TV gets a break from me throwing stuff at it this weekend......My prediction is that the Browns won't lose a game this weekend!!!!!!!

You rub the tractor down with fine (00) steel wool then wipe down with WD-40 or at least that is the way I did a couple of mine. Gives them that used but took care of look. By the way I like your tractor combo!

Packers don't whine...

The overall frame assembly looks like this. --- The original bagger bracket is still on the lawn tractor. 2 vertical bars are bolted to the inside of it and remain on the tractor. The horse shoe shapped lower frame, is hinged to the botton end of the 2 vertical bars. (pull the door hinge pins and the lower frame is off). The top cross pipe is made to drop into the original bagger frame, just like the original bagger hood did. I used side links from a set of snow chains, with a snow chain link clip on each end ( dog chain clips will also work), to connect from the pipe cross bar, to each end of the lower frame. Thye dog cage is also hinged to the ends of the frame, for dumping. The inside of the cage is lined with SEPERATE pieces of 1/4" mesh rat wire, so the cage will fold up flat. I fastened the rat wire with hog rings. One entire side of the cage became the door. Original shoot tube was cut off and 8" flex hose was used to reach heating duct pieces at the top of the cage. Also, I used .060" clear plastic, to cover the top and front side of the cage. It is held on with hooks, made form chain links. It keeps the dust and chaf, from coating me from behind. I already had these pics, but will take some of the details, if you want me to post them. ----- John

i thought about taking a few shots but the time never seemed right. well im out cleaning up the yard from the fall fallout with the c125 and cart and mulching the now dead garden with the 1277 and thought id add a shot. heres my c125 and cart im using today to do leaves duty. i could just drag the bags of leaves to the garden but what fun would that be. might post a couple more later on......

Here are some other pict of my Suburban 551. Thanks

74 C-120. Put this one at the bottom of the pile, as I had my '72' Raider 12 feature in the 2011 Calender. This one is nearly finished

You might be a Wheel Horse addict if when the wife asks you how many tractors you have and you honestly can't remember.

All that's missing is a couple of kids playing in the yard, dad smoking his pipe and the mom serving iced tea! :)

Scot

Finally got this one resolved. The primary issue was a pin-hole in the float. Once the carburator was off of the tractor, it became evident the fuel pump diaphram was in bad shape. It took a while to get a replacement. But after replacing the float, the valvel and seat, and the diaphram, the 10 HP Tecumseh runs like a top. Thanks to all for the help!

I honestly don't think there's money in restoring uless you get them for free and someone pays you to restore it. Even if you buy low and sell high, you're time is worth something. If you find a really nice condition original, probably wouldn't restore it. If you have a basket case, then redoing them, imo, is the way to go. Honestly not many people actually restore them to oem condition, they bring them back and make them their own. (As I have done). I happen to like lights on my 854, but it's not restored. I like wide tires on it also, but that's not oem. At that point, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I certaily could get my money back, but not my time. Most people do it for the act of doing it, and not for profit. Some people do such an awesome job in repainting, they look better then oem, but WH didn't come this way either. A huge amount of talent among the many RS members, but true restoration is far and few.

Steve, I'll take the RJ with the electric start Clinton, I'll give ya twice what ya paid for it. I'll be up after work! I'll take an original RJ or Suburban that is in decent original condition over a restored one any day. Once it has been restored they often look like any other restored tractor out there, they all start to look the same. Patina is something that can't be duplicated so I'd pay more for that. Don't get me wrong, some original tractors are beyond the nice old patina stage and a full restore is really needed and I've fully restored a few RJ's in my day. I have seen some of the newer 3, 4 and 5 series tractors go for pretty good money in restored condition. I think some guys might be willing to pay more for something they are actually willing to do some work with. The trick is to find a decent tractor mechanically (for the right price) that only needs cosmetic work.

Craig, I don't like this subject! When I think about all the blood,sweat,tears, and the amount of dieting my wallet did during my horse's resto, and then I look at what its actually worth, it makes me want to cry. But that's OK, I love my ! Matt :flags-texas:

i would think that it would be more about how thorough a restoration is done and what sort of condition it is to begin with, rather than what model/year it is. the basket case is going to take a whole bunch more cash and time than something that has led a sheltered life. sure some of the models have items that are harder to come by, but if you start with something that is in reasonable condition and complete, that is really going to help more on the dollar front. most basket cases will require replacement of a bunch of stuff, or major time and money to fix what you have. i dont think the money invested vs finished resale value is something the enthusiast (most of us) really care about, or want to think about, when considering a model/year of tractor. i think its mostly a like or a want that decides what we end up with, or what tractors we get into. if it was about the investment, we would be doing something different...... i dont even want to sit down and add up what i have in both of my rebuilds $ wise, the time invested doesnt matter because its a hobby, something to enjoy...... thats how i feel anyway........ in relation to the 551, if thats what you really wanted, you would put the money into it. thats not to say that a bunch of parts wouldnt be replaced along the way though......

WOW !!! A thread just for 420 LSE tractors !!! I braved the cold/snow/freezing rain out to the barn and just checked my "numbers". The engraved plate on the hood has only the name of the first owner. The serial number #00051 is barely visible...with the aid of a bright light at just the right angle...on the ID tag, just between your legs, while sitting on the seat....just at the forward edge of the seat pan, as described above. Marv (NW Oh)