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1 pointSpeed up that Horse? For those of you that do not know, I race Lawn Mowers with the United States Lawn Mower Racing Association. I compete at the top level of Lawn Mower racing, the Sta-Bil Lawn And Garden Mower racing Series. I race the #M37 Cool Rides Online mower in the C/P Class. After Several inquiries as to speeding up tractors I decided to do a write up on just this subject. So let’s speed up that Horse! Put a 6†pulley on your engine, and a 4†pulley on your tranny and you will boost the speed of your tractor to approx 10MPH... But that isn’t enough...LETS GO FAST! WHOOAAAAA BIG RED! You did not think it was going to be that easy did you! First thing, before we talk about gears and pulleys and revs and all that jazz….lets look at a few things! LIKE SAFETY! Your tractor is a tractor, not a go-cart! Tractors are made for working, not flying around the neighborhood. There for, many of the components on your tractor were neither designed for , nor are they correct for High speed applications! First of these being the brakes! Higher speeds are much harder on brakes. That little band brake that will flip you out of the seat at 7mph…won’t do much more than make some smoke at 30 MPH! On USLMRA Racing mowers we upgrade to some pretty serious Disc Brakes, some of us running front & Rear brakes so that we can safely Whoa up our trick Pony’s! Next is Wheels; Now compared to most, WH’s have some strong feet, but speed is hard on wheels! On our sanctioned class racers we upgrade to some pretty stout stuff! Along with wheels comes steering; That wobbly gobbly thing we call a “Good Strong Front end†is not near stable enough for high speed application. One of the biggest things is Stability; A USLMRA Prepared Class racer sits as low as 4†Off of the ground, has a 38†tracking width, and weighs in the neighborhood of 300-350 pounds, give or take. With our tractors sitting 3 times or more than that up, several inches narrower, and two or three times the weight…..things get interesting REAL quick! Having a 600 or more pound tractor land on you can get way past dangerous in less than a heartbeat. Now that we have considered how unsafe this venture can be…why else DON’T we want to make changes to the gearing of our tractor? How about your engine? More than likely, without some major modifications, that K91 is NOT going to pull a doubled up gear ratio! How about your tranny? WH trannies are NOT models of efficiency. They may be great for the job they were intended, but when it comes to high speed application they would not be your first choice, or second….or 23rd? Over speeding them can have catastrophic effects on them, to the point of actually blowing them apart. Do you really want to do that to your 50 Y/O treasure? Finally there is the subject of the purpose of your tractor. If you ever connect any type of attachment or implement to your tractor you DO NOT want to speed it up! Plain and simple here gents, without re-engineering and re-gearing your transaxle, you cannot speed up one gear without speeding up all of them. Tractors are made for working, and Wheel Horses are capable of some simply amazing feats when you consider the amount of work they get done for the size of engines they have. The minute you start increasing speed you decrease the amount of work your tractor can do. And as far as mowers or snow blowers go go, excessive speeds on rotating attachments can be fatal, for the attachment and the operator! You start speeding it up, forget about dirt work, snow pushing or all that other “Tractor†stuff with your now very poorly designed Go Cart! SO just so we are clear, if you decide to proceed beyond this point… I AM ABOUT TO SHOW YOU THE EASIEST AND QUICKEST WAY TO MAKE YOUR TRACTOR USELESS AND WORSE YET....SPILL YOUR BEER!! Now that you have decided to ignore my very intelligent and worthy cautions.....lets get to the fun! You can slightly “boost†the speed of most tractors without any major ramifications...so for youthat want to make your 7MPH Horses go a whopping 9MPH...or get really out there and hit the double digits at say 12MPH!! here is the goods! Making your tractor faster is relatively simple, it takes a little bit of math, some minor mechanical ability and fabrication skill. The speed of a tractor has 3 basic elements; The speed of the engine, the overall gear ratio and the size of the tires. Now immediately someone is going to tell me I forgot the SIZE of the engine. In theory the engines size or power does not determine how fast the tractor will go but rather how long it will take it to get to that speed! In actuality, if you do not have enough engine to get the thing rolling in the first place...the amount of time it takes to reach top speed is exactly never! We are going to focus on the second element only. The engine build is an entirely different subject, and I am going to assume most of us already have our tires. So what you guys really want to know is, how to manipulate your gear ratio. Simply put, the overall gear ratio of a tractor is a comparison between how fast the engine turns and how fast the axle turns. The fewer revolutions your engine makes for every revolution of the axle, the faster your tractor goes. The overall ratio on a WH is broken into 2 sections. The primary, or belt drive, consists of the engine pulley, the belt and the transmission pulley. The final drive, or trans-axle, consist of.....you guessed it...the trans-axle! To find your overall Drive Ratio you Multiply your primary ratio by your final ratio. To speed up your tractor, you must change one of these ratios. As I said earlier, there is nothing you can do about the trans-axle ratio without re-engineering the whole thing. The primary drive however, we can whoop the hell out of that! How much speed you gain will be determined by how much you change that ratio..most of us would prefer to know how much speed we are going to get before we buy the pulleys. So NOW we are getting to what you really wanted to know. I know....Rooster just shut up and tell me what size to get! OK..A 6 on the engine and a 4 on the tranny...happy now? If you want to know how I got those numbers...read on. To determine your pulley sizes you need a formula...and here it is... Top Speed = (Engine RPM * Tire Diameter) / (Gear Ratio * 336) SO lets break that down a little.... Engine RPM: I usually govern “working†engines around 3500...so we will just use that #. Tire Dia: This is the actual measured Height of your rear tires...not what is printed on the sidewall. For argument, we ar going to use 23†336: This is a constant derived from the circumf...ohhh you don’t care...just use the number! Gear ratio: This is the thing we are working with...remember... To find your overall gear ratio takes another formula.... Overall Gear ratio= Primary Ratio * Final Ratio Primary Ratio= Transmission Pulley/ Engine pulley SOOOOOO I believe most WH’s have a 4†engine pulley and a 6†tranny Pulley Gear Ratio= (Trans Pulley/Engine Pulley)*Final Ratio ANDDDDD Top Speed = (RPM*Dia)/(((Trans Pulley/Engine Pulley)*Final Ratio)*336) We now have the complete formula for figuring speed. So lets plug our numbers in here... I believe most WH’s have a 4†engine pulley and a 6†tranny Pulley, and the final gear drives best my research shows on manual tranyy’s is 24.6/1. Top Speed=(3500*23)/((( 6/4 )*24.6)*336) 80,500/(( 1.5 *24.6)*336) 80,500/((36.9)*336) 80,500/ 12,398.4=6.49 MPH So, the speed of a Manual transmission Wheel Horse Tractor with 23†tall tires, at 3500 RPM is about 6 ½ MPH...more or less depending on how many beers you have had. Now ….I still have not told you how to make it faster.... Simply change the pulleys... Bigger on the engine or smaller on the tranny makes you faster. Smaller on the engine or bigger on the tranny makes you slower...but you can pull more How much faster is simply a matter of how drastic of a change you make. To make this easier, I have made a calculator for you to use....Wheel Horse Speed Calculator Insert your Pulley sizes, tire Diameter and engine speed and it will figure your Overall Gear ratio and top speed for you. So now we are all done! Oops....wait....your clutch doesn’t work anymore....dangit. Here’s an Idea...since your clutch and belt are made to work with a 4†& 6†pulley....use those sizes, only put the 6†on the engine and the 4†on the tranny....where have I heard that before? We still have a belt guard issue, which on many tractors is also a belt guide issue...which must be addressed. I am sorry to tell you, but I have not devised any other way than making a new belt guard? As for the issue of attachments, all hope is not lost. You can buy “Stepped†sized pulleys. So your drive pulley would be the 6†and your attachment pulley what ever size the original was.
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1 pointWent up to Michigan for family Christmas this weekend and had a good time seeing family members that I haven't seen in quite a while. It was a very adventerous trip to say the least. Saturday morning the family loaded up in the truck with the landscape trailer in tow. Had to make a little detour on the way to drop off a 654 to a gentleman up in Michigan. The problem was there was a small sheet of ice all the way from Fort Wayne, IN to Ann Arbor, MI. Saw numersous slide offs, two cars flipped over, and plenty of emergency personnel earning their money unfortunately. Needless to say we made it safely, just turned a 3 1/2 hour drive in to a 5 hour one. Woke up Sunday morning and the wife and kids headed back with mom to Indiana, while Dad and I hopped in the truck at 9 a.m. and headed north. Met a really nice couple that had a Wheel Horse dealership that unfortunately had to close down due to the poor economy. We stopped in at the old shop and purchased a few things. Was able to grab two lighted signs that are in perfect shape, just need a real good cleaning. Here they are with Dad making sure everything was secure for the long ride home. We made it in to the shop and grabbed the rest of their Tecumseh parts and a handful of Briggs Parts. Grabbed a few 3 ring binders of Kohler, Walbro, etc manuals. Also had every microfiche card known to man thrown in on the deal. Anything from Wheel Horse to Kohler and everything in between. Then we headed over to their home and felt like American Pickers as we were allowed to crawl, climb, and search through their unwanted items. The back of the truck was full as well as the back seat in the truck. It was a great day and more importantly another journey that dad and I were able to share in the hobby. Made it back home at 6:30 and was very glad to look over the goodies, but more excited about finally being out of the truck for a while!
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1 pointHello All and Happy Holidays! Today I made some time to finally get some firewood put together..... yah I know its late but I have been busy as heck. Well the firewood was 9/10ths of a mile from my house and was free and well seasoned. I made 7 round trips at 1.8 miles each... for a total of 12.6 miles in the saddle. I burned 2 gallons of gas doing it so at full bore in 3rd high my tractor is pulling roughly 6 mpg I started spliting it up and have roughly 4 cords left to split and stack.... had a ball and the little B80 with a pull start Kohler Mag 8 is tough as nails! Someday soon the loader will go on a C series with a full gear reduction forward swept axle and then it will be a force to be reckoned with. Today I also met AMCrules and am always glad to meet other members. Tony
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1 pointlooks great! I sold my 69 RS Camaro 327 after I joined the Army back in 83. at the time it was the right thing to do to take care of my wife and young kids. prices are out of control on classic cars now. Terry had Carpal tunnel surgery, today I think he should be able to use the other hand (somehow that doesnt sound right)
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1 pointMy wife bought me a 551 a few years back and I still have it. Once in a while she will ask how many I have. All I say is, About as many as before. Wink Wink.
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1 pointHi guys-Long time no "see". I just had to show you the latest events in our household these Holidays. You probably know I am a Foster parent. Things being as tight as I can remember financially, this picture is a Miracle. We all worked, scrimped and saved and got it done. This is my oldest Grandson-Trevor- he is beaming with pride! He just got his High School Class ring! In view of the trauma this young man has gone thru in his life-it's a wonder he has come this far. I am proud of him-he has good grades and good conduct-and he loves to drive my C-125A! "What a guy!" Thanks for looking-Merry Christmas from us all-Al
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1 pointI have no idea if you have access to any larger tire shops, but if you can find one with a pneumatic bead-seater like a Cheetah, that would be the safest and easiest way to take care of your tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eajQnEe-oRI
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1 pointAbout 95% Craftsman hand tools here....The professional tools would be nice (Snap On, Matco, etc, etc), but I'm far from a professional. I have Bosch, DeWalt, & Makita electric tools. Also have various "cheapy" air tools, but don't use them much.....prefer the quiet of hand tools, or being able to hear myself cuss over the noise of am air compressor?
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1 pointI used Autocad for a bit, once I went 3D I never looked back! It is actually so much easier not having to "think " in 3D as you draw in 2D. I have had guys call 3D Modeling an "Unnecessary waste of money", actually it saves alot of engineering time. It has, however, in my opinion allowed for a degrade in the quality of engineers today. Like anything else you either use it or lose it. Being on both sides of the coin, I see the point made. Little background on me. I am 22 years old, and work almost exclusively with SolidWorks at the moment. When I started schooling, the first 2 years were strictly board work. I did floor plans, part layouts, construction plans etc etc on paper sizes from A up to D. After that was 2 years schooling on the computer, AutoCAD at the time, working in 2D. I am extremely good at visualizing the part and making the proper views without having a model to go by. I know that is a weak point for some people. After that, and for the past 2 or 3 years, I have been 3D modeling in SolidWorks. Back when I was doing manual drafting, by hand with a pencil, layouts and planing were crucial to making a print, or many hours would be wasted. I also learned dimensioning, GDT, all that by hand as well. The fundamentals of print layout and dimensioning is a lost art I feel. I have yet to come across a newer "drafter" with the skill-set I have learned. SolidWorks really eliminates the need for that unfortunately. It even has an "auto-dimension" feature built in, which is a hunk of crap in my opinion. Anyways, the point of this post is this. People learning strictly on SolidWorks, I feel, are not as good of a "drafter" as the "older generation". Even text has gone way down hill. I used to have to take classes on the correct way to letter on a print. No more with SolidWorks, or any computer program at that. The good side though, is for people like marketing (yes, I work with them daily) who cannot visualize a part from a 2D print. SolidWorks allows you to do assemblies in the blink of an eye, and can show marketing exactly what they are getting. I even had to work with them on color selection one day, and I was able to print out different versions of the part with different colors and textures applied. Then once you get into stress analysis, fluid dynamics, casting analysis etc etc, SolidWorks has definitely reduced the amount of work to get results, although at a price. Gone are the days of long-hand formulas, and pages of calculations. The price though, is that you don't really understand where the results come from. When you do it by hand, you can go through and make sure everything is accounted for, how it all comes into play etc, but with SolidWorks, you hit a button and it spits out data. In short, I find that 2D and 3D modeling do have their roles in modern day work environments, however I feel that the level of worker it is putting out is at a lower key then what was produced back even one generation ago. Not trying to knock the "new guys", but seeing everything and growing with the technology has really opened my eyes. Sorry for the rant guys... , and I do apologize ahead of time if I insulted anybody.
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1 pointThis is the n.o.s. deck shell I got from Scott, (whfan74) I had it blasted then installed all new bearings, seals and put a new set of blades on it. A new set of belts and it should be ready to go.
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