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I'm Not Sure Why, But I Now Have a B-80
Handy Don replied to BradKahler's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
So you might try the VR you have one last time before sending it to the scrap heap. Unlikely for sure, but recognize that an aftermarket regulator can be DOA. We’ve had member here post experiencing new-but-not-working stuff. -
Today I used both of mine to hold down the garage floor. Both are out of commission until tomorrow at least, and probably Saturday. Mechanical fuel pumps failed and started leaking again, so I'm biting the bullet and going electric.
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Evening, Unsure where to post this. For those of us living in Florida or the hotter southern states that have indigenous plant life that may not exist up north, with barbs, thorns, pointy sharp tire puncturers… what would be an ideal tire type to get for Wheelhorse tractor in this environment of grass, gravel, rocks. No snow.
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As someone new to Wheelhorse and who likes to support USA made when able, That’s disappointing to hear
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Thank you very much. Will take Off old carb and install aftermarket while figure out what to do with orignal
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Sears used mostly Briggs or Tecumseh engines. A Kohler engine sounds ... different. They do sound that way. Because at start up, they are low compression. Kohler engines have a compression release to help with starting. There are others that do as well but a mid 60s Kohler has a very docile sound. This. Get it running. Use it. Enjoy it.
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What have you done to your Wheel Horse today?
Wayne0 replied to Ed Kennell's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Wow, only .4 hours! You've got yourself a new machine!! -
Good information here but I'll add IMO you can't effectively clean a carburetor without removing and replacing the welch plugs. They're cheap and easy to replace. They cover drillings in the carburetor body that you really need to be able to spray cleaner through or to have uncovered when you submerge the body in an ultrasonic tank (also highly recommended and relatively cheap at harbor freight or online). DonyBoy is a good source of information but I don't subscribe to his removal method. I never drill through them, I just carefully drive a scratch awl through and pry them out. Clean the carb, set the correct replacement plug in the milled body and set it (gently) with a blunt punch. If you foul the plug just pry it out and set another until you get it right. Really easy once you've done a couple.
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I'm Not Sure Why, But I Now Have a B-80
BradKahler replied to BradKahler's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
That's good to hear. I just finished trying the AC on A & B with C set as B+. It's still not charging. I took a look at a picture on Amazon of the regulator that I've ordered and it's pin configuration matches how the wires were connected to my original regulator before I took things apart. Amazon regulator. At least I know for certain with the new regulator how to wire it. -
I'm Not Sure Why, But I Now Have a B-80
BradKahler replied to BradKahler's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
It turns out is mostly me not setting the carburetor idle fuel mixture screw properly. I had just finished cleaning and rebuild it and this was the first startup attempt. -
Proper cleaning should include an overnight emersion in a can of carburetor cleaner. There are lots of small passages that can become plugged up including the main needle valve,
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I'm Not Sure Why, But I Now Have a B-80
BradKahler replied to BradKahler's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Thanks, I do have that manual and used it previously when I was setting the initial idle and main needle settings. However, looking at the manual again I figure out what I did wrong. I've been working on both the K241 and K181 carburetors at the same time and I inadvertently set the K181 idle fuel screw to 2-1/2 turns, the same as the K241. I reset it to 1-1/4 turns and it started. It did take a little playing with the choke and throttle levers to see what settings worked best but it starts and runs now. I then set the idle fuel mixture per the manual and it sounds pretty good. I haven't touched the main fuel mixture screw yet. I'll wait until I can drive it outside. I need to do that soon because the gearbox is filled with diesel -
The depth and moisture content also determines which tractor I use. Light fluffy stuff - generally the snow thrower first followed by the plow. Heavy wet stuff - only the plow. Long duration storm - need to go out at least twice...
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When I last drove my 856 in April and it shut off and wouldn’t restart, I thought it’s either a fuel issue and or ignition perhaps both. I put new battery in today, got new fuel line all hooked up, put the tester on spark plug and to my amazement, it has spark, just thought i could replace the points coil and condenser to have a fresh starting point so unknown they will be ones I installed and not unknown time frame. But as you all have mentioned the orignal are better and just lightly clean them to begin with, keep it simple. So after this misdiagnosis of it NOT being a spark or ignition issue after all, so since that functions properly, I will concentrate on the carburetor., I now know it has a dirty ethanol fuel clogged carburetor.. and possibly a compression issue.. after I showed my neighbor who was 30 year Sears lawnmower mechanic that spark tester video.. he said it sounds as if low compression.. and asked if it smoked.. when I started it in April, it did smoke some yes.. so perhaps I need to buy a Kohler rebuild and attempt that myself? which I do not have the proper tools needed to bore the cylinders and other specialized tools. Or is there a drop in direct replacement predator engine I could use while learning to rebuild the K181 engine? Or just once carb is clean, drive it with non ethanol fuel until it won’t drive anymore, THEN focus on rebuild/replace?
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obviously, no right or wrong way -- everyone learns with experimenting for their driveway design and nature of storm -- biggest variable is always the depth ( 3 inch versus 12 inches makes huge difference which technique is best ) or snow if fluffy or wet -- one strategy works one storm but maybe not the next - starting down the middle of 12 inch storm then trying to push the next row combined with the middle is 24 inches of snow -- likely not the best approach
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Just finished plowing snow with the 654. 20251211_170301.mp4
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Seems like it would hard to maneuver with that camper on the back.
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Keeps weight on the rear wheels...
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Note to self: Remember that line for future reference.
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Wow how the years have passed
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I'm Not Sure Why, But I Now Have a B-80
sqrlgtr replied to BradKahler's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Thanks for writing all that up and belive you are absolutely correct. Jogged my memory and think I have went through this wit someone before, may have even been you lol . Anyhows here is a pic of mine. -
Keep the camper on while plowing??
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@76c12091520h sells a very nice hitch that uses the sides and the lower 3/4" hole as bracing. Very strong.
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You n your technicalities.....
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Seconded. Trina and I have had at LEAST 15 engines go through the shop now. I've replaced ONE set of points and quite likely didn't need to... My first thought on reading this thread was ... Why? Why do you believe you NEED new ignition? I believe you'd be FAR better off diagnosing an actual issue. As far as a good source, @Gasaholic has the right idea of safety in return capability. I personally feel that J Bezos has and wastes enough money so I've stopped buying most things from the jungle site. Not all. Most. I've been having very good experiences with a company called billsplaceshop.com Excellent customer service. Excellent prices. Many many OE parts. Definitely recommend them.
