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416-H vs. 417-A: Which is the better buy?
pfrederi replied to fuzzystump's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Better check the Spec Number of the Command Pro 18. They did not have ball bearing crank shafts. More like KT and Magnums only some came with a thrust crank shaft. (had some sort of radial thrust bearing),. most has a "non-Thrust crankshaft. -
Here's Johnny!
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Belts we use are measured on the outside circumference. Belts shrink with age so a new old belt will measure a bit short. Industrial belts are measured at the internal cord location which allows shaft speeds to be accurately determined. A or 1/2" wide belts add 2" to get the outside circumference. B or 5/8" wide belts add 3" to get the outside circumference.
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@Sutty glaringly obvious to me ? those , chinese fish oil " lubricated " sealed bearings , are known for failure , and excessissive belt wear , also long unsupported , spring tension enhanced , set up , insures belt bounce . look up some related pictures of the set ups , might find some help , pete
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Sorry I missed this tag earlier but the guidance that @lynnmor gave you was right on the money. Sounds like you came out of this deal smelling like a rose If you think the 520-H wiring is confusing you need to look at the Lxi and XT versions with a Kawasaki engine and the "NO-MOW in REVERSE" wiring. On second thought, don't do it, that would ruin your day.
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Car AC problem/symptom and question
squonk replied to wh500special's topic in non tractor related discussion
Pressures are wrong. Too low on the low side and too high on the high side. Should be in the 35lb/ 200lb range Not a damper issue -
I'm not so sure that's a 701 S/G guard, doesn't look quite right to me. Looks to be from a Briggs motor maybe?
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Thank you for the exploded view, and the belt description. I'd read the belt was 139" x 1/2" elsewhere on this site, but was worried it won't be tight enough, without a spring tensioner. However, I have just discovered why I do not have a spring tensioner lever. I think it's fairly clear that it was badly welded, and at some point it has snapped off. The fact that it has paint on the flat metal portion, behind the front weld area, suggests there was no weld there and it was somewhat open. I will have to see what I can come up with. Maybe I can weld something on? Excuse my ignorance, but just in case I get it wrong, can I assume that the 139" will be the inside running length or shall we say, inside circumference? Thanks again.
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Betcha y’all didn’t know 164
SylvanLakeWH replied to 953 nut's topic in non tractor related discussion
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416-H vs. 417-A: Which is the better buy?
953 nut replied to fuzzystump's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
The Kohler Command is a much newer engine so the hour meter reading is probably inconsequential. Wheel Horse began using the Command engines in the very late 1990s and continued to use them up to the end of production. They have a fairly good reputation and the newer replacement engine may be the seller's justification for the higher asking price. -
416-H vs. 417-A: Which is the better buy?
Bill D replied to fuzzystump's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
I too was leary of Onans, but now I have two 416H's and a 416-8. Personally I would go with the 416H. All of the problems you read about are relatively easy to fix. With some minor wiring modifications you can prevent burnup issues with the notorious 9 pin connector. 400 hours is nothing. Buy it and run it, you won't be disappointed. -
Some idiot cut a big ugly hole in the front of the hood rather than using the correct air filter. Other than that it appears to be a rather nice 702 with a 701 S/G belt guard. As far a value is concerned the S/G belt guard and two v groove pullies are worth as much as the rest of the tractor in my opinion. For $ 100 it would be a good deal but not worth driving from Florida to PA and back.
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1962? Wheelhorse..model value, rarity?
FLtractor replied to FLtractor's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Ahh ok. Only picture i have. Thank you for the info Bill -
1962? Wheelhorse..model value, rarity?
FLtractor replied to FLtractor's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Only picture I have. It’s at an estate sale today in pensyvania.. but I live in Florida .. was just browsing marketplace.. seller said asking $100.00 - Today
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Car AC problem/symptom and question
953 nut replied to wh500special's topic in non tractor related discussion
Had the same problem on my wife's Ford product. The damper that controls the airflow (defrost, heat, cooling) has a default position of defrost with heat. It is operated by vacuum and the bean counters at Ford decided that a small check valve on the vacuum line to the comfort control system would work as well as a vacuum reservoir. If the check valve isn't functioning properly when you accelerate rapidly or go up a steep hill the vacuum produced by the engine reduces to the point that the damper previously mentioned goes to the heat / defrost default position until vacuum is restlored. We had the wife's car to two Ford dealers who tested everything in the refrigerant system but didn't know a thing about the vacuum problem, the good old boy who services our vehicles knew exactly what the problem was when I asked him and once the check valve was replaced the problem went away. -
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Car AC problem/symptom and question
squonk replied to wh500special's topic in non tractor related discussion
I used to have my own auto AC shop and did it for many years at dealers before that. It is either the expansion valve or the overcharge condition. Since this car has been messed with I would replace the valve I would also consider replacing the condenser as the receiver drier is part of it as as an assembly. But here is one thing I would insist upon. Whoever recharges is I would insist on evacuating ( running the vacuum pump) for at least 2 hours. Many shops have AC machines that run the pump for 30 minutes and kick off. On a system that has leaked or been messed with there is no telling how much moisture has gotten in it. Water gets trapped in the refrigerant oil and you have to boil that moisture off and it can take quite a bit of time for the water vapor to break out of the oil and get sucked out by the pump. I made good money from customers who had their car at a shop ( mostly body shops) and the AC would work on and off or not get real cold. All it took was to run the pump a few hours and recharge it. It even happened to me after I didn't have my shop anymore. My wife had a Toyota van. The rear AC line failed so I took it to a shop that specializes in Toyota's and they replaced the line and recharged it. It worked for a day and a half. I suspected air and moisture in the system or a piece of dirt got into the expansion valve, I asked before they replaced the valve they recover the refrigerant and run the vacuum pump all morning and recharge after lunch. That fixed the issue. No parts required. I'm including a short video of my findings on my gauges the morning after it quit working after the line repair. -
1962? Wheelhorse..model value, rarity?
ri702bill replied to FLtractor's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Sorry - it looks to be a FrankenHorse. The double wide S/G belt guard says 1961, the short hood, front axle & steering, gas tank, iron dash all say 1962. If that is a Dial-a-Height lift stop, it says 1963.... Additional pictures from the rear & right side needed to better define this one... Rarity - probably a one of one - but not for a good reason. -
@PWL216 is your 200 series like this one?
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Niiiiice!
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The view out my mom's kitchen window. That's Lake Rohunta. Down in between here n there is a major travel route but you can't see the vehicles. My Ole Man Qball used to like doing the dishes and looking out .... 💜
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I've been using lacquer thinner for a few years. Seems to work good and lasts well. I do NOT use the heat cycle. I do have the thinner in a separate smaller vessel and surrounded by water in the machine.
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2026 Big Show Buy/Sell/Trade Thread
WildHorses replied to Pullstart's topic in Wheel Horse Collectors Club Show
NOS 48" Mower Deck barn find but brand new never mowed grass $1300 can deliver to Big Show or anywhere along I70 from Indiana to Pensylvania week of big show. Local pickup available in Columbus, IN. Will likely only bring to show with pre arranged deal in place so let me know if you want it. I have not cleaned the dirt and dust off it since I've had it, I would assume some minor scratches and shelf wear possible. Also comes with mostly NOS mule drive and belt (mostly because it has a cast pulley so I think it was possibly put together with new parts, may have been used one or twice). I also have a 48" shell (with no other parts) I would sell for $800 condition is exactly the same as one pictured just not a complete deck. -
Hello everyone, Apologies if this is in the wrong form but I wasn't sure if a hose in trying to ID is for the engine or transmission. Been reading this forum and others for hours with no luck. I inherited a 244-H that was maintained well. It's running pretty good, haven't had any real issues. However, I noticed one day when cleaning the top of the mower deck that a hose, which looked to be a vacuum hose, got cut by the pulley. I pulled and the entire hose came out. Problem is, I have NO idea what this hose was even for or where the ends went. It seems like it ran from somewhere near the back of engine or under seat where transmission is, all the way to the front of the tractor. Looks like fuel line, but it isn't for fuel. Tractor continues to run great, so I imagine it's a breather hose with little consequence? In the attached image, item 20 is a cable tie - this is what one end of the hose was attached to at the very front, just under the muffler. Item 3, a clip, is a hose clip right above the mower deck, near the pulley and belt - the hose was also in that. Anyone know what this hose is for? Would love to replace it if I could figure out where the heck it went. Thanks in advance! Great forum y'all have here - no doubt I'll be coming back as I work to keep this 244-H going.
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Car AC problem/symptom and question
Blaine replied to wh500special's topic in non tractor related discussion
Your pressures suggest a restriction, a new expansion valve is where i would start. Sounds like it’s sticking. Being that the high side is well over 300, the compressor appears to be in good shape, or at least capable of making good pressure. I would still inspect the high side of the expansion valve for compressor debris which may have got caught at the expansion valve and has caused the restriction. Sometimes you can hear a sticking expansion valve if you listen closely to the dash, idle up to around 1500rpm, and a lower blower speed so you can hear over top of it. Silent for a few seconds, then a few seconds of hissing in the dash accompanied with a brief gush of cooler air through the vents, then back to warm, and the cycle repeats. Yours sounds to be just stuck. On the newer (i’m old so everything is newer now) small capacity systems, it can be rather easy to flood the evaporator with just a few ounces of being overcharged, so be careful not to overcharge it, and check or just replace the cabin air filter if you haven’t already. They are often overlooked.
