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Transaxle case numbers are different between your unit and the later hydro gears. And hydro gear case number for left side are different than later piston to piston units.. It might be easier to p[ck up a transaxle from any sunstrand hydro gear. (Chargers Electros etc).. Your hydro pump will bolt on to it.
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I have found the same so I leave the chains on in spring when the lawn is often wet and soft. I do have to be careful that the chains are very snug to the tire else they clatter against the 36” RD gear deck. Short frame tractors don’t have any spare wheelbase!
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Well I have to rule out fuel issue. I pulled the fuel line where it joins the carb and cranked the engine and fuel is pushing quite nicely as it turns over, so I can rule fuel pump out. This engine just cranks and cranks but will not fire up. I will pull the bowl from the bottom of the carb and give it a good cleanout but I guess I'm going back to electrical tinkering. I appreciate the links and the knowledge, excellent info!
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@Margie agree with @953 nut on the T/S aramid belts , been bombproof for me , remember , what eats up a belt ? related , pulley in the set up , is incrementally hanging up / stopping , due to lubrication failure . while you are changing out the belt , take the time to feel / spin every related pulley / if possible , that will show the start / reason for noise / wear . thats your que , pete
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You would probably need to go through the IPLs for various models and compare part numbers for axle bearings and case halves and I'm not sure that this would give conclusive results. I have never attempted to swap out the differentials from the Eaton with those from manual or Sundstrand transaxles. It appeared that the Eaton's differential was not replaceable by other earlier units. I have placed the geared transmission's eight pinion in a Sundstrand just for proof of concept. I have also used the bevel gear in a six speed with good results. Mowing very steep grades is never a pleasure, I mowed for my neighbor while he was recouping from surgery and could mow UP the steepest part with my 310-8 4 Pinion open differential without a problem if the grass was DRY but would loose traction going down, one wheel would skid while the other freewheeled. I put on tire chains and had no wheel spin in the steepest places and if you don't spin the wheels the chains don't harm the lawn. My 1055 is also a four pinion open differential with chains, loaded tires and about 40 pounds of weight. It will plow up my driveway with a bit of wheel spin whereas the 418-C will do it without wheel spin but the 418-C had 10.5 " tires and the 055 only has 8.00" tires.
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The surest way is to look up the model number of the potential donor and check the parts listing. And that assumes it was not transplanted at some point To add to the confusion if you want to put an 8 pinion into a 10 pinion tranny you have to make sure you have the 2 piece mushroom gear
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32 inch side discharge mower deck question ??
peter lena replied to Brockport Bill's topic in Implements and Attachments
@Brockport Bill done over all my decks , years ago , all communality failure ? rough noisy spindle and related , mule drive bearings , fix / elimination? LUCAS X-TRA HEAVY DUTY GREASE , 550 deg flash point , polyurea rated ( anti sling ) especially good in pto needle cone bearing , thoroughly clean out and very lightly reapply , really enhances pto spin up, also replace the outer sealed bearing ( napa has it ) . removed every bearing in deck spindles ,popped out seals also related mule drive bearings , clean out , brake cleaner flush , repack / seal , guess what ? never had another whyining , rough bearing issue , also went after my mule , lever set up detail function , been bombproof for many years . it all basically looks the same , BUT IT DOES NOT FAIL OR WHYNE , also my pto lever set up , does not , have a screaming clutch disc , spin up is smooth / quiet / easy . every stage ENHANCED for hand off to next . used my c-85 , as test bed , then duplicated it to the other tractors , over 40 years , pete - Today
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And the message relayed was carved into a coconut... that momento sat on his desk while President.
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Full set of NOS Wheel Horse Chrome Embossed Hubcaps for a 520H. Let me know if you have questions, need more information, pictures, etc. Buyer pays shipping. Located in Washington, MO 63090
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@peter lena get you goin , just me , pete
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If you can find one, their still out there, some members here sell them stay with an original Wheel Horse (Toro belts) their aren't cheap but there is a good chance the belts on your 35+ year old 312 are the original ones. Your drive belt (to the transmission) original belt number is 78-7100 it was later replaced by Toro 7473, it is 5/8" x81.9 anything you buy now are 5/8"x 82" does that 0.1" make a difference obviously it did the engineers who designed this things. The TSC huskee belt would be my aftermarket choice, they are about half the price of an original, so you can change it once and still come out ahead. Sorry, didn't mean to ramble on but I took my meds early today and I'm on my 3rd cup of coffee .
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I cannot seam to find any info as to what diff was used in the hydros in what models / years
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so you think the 8 gets the same traction as the 10? I run 62 lb home made lead weights in each wheel and used tires loaded with rv antifreeze in the past. I have had some traction issues as i have some steep hills i need to mow
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It is the same "bevel gear differential" as was used ion the 953. I have had all three, bevel, 8 pinion, and ten pinion on the bench side by side before and all three measured the same and would interchange. Wish I could find the pictures. You know, if you don't have pictures it didn't happen. I memory serves me right the bolts on the bevel gear had to go in a particular direction to work in an eight speed but would clear in either direction in the six speed. BUT, that shouldn't be an issue in the hydro so pardon my getting slightly Have I sufficiently confused the issue?
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My GT-14 had a transplant going from aluminum to cast iron end plates a few years ago when I replaced an axle I snapped of while it still had the aluminum plates, that is when I discovered the Torrington B-348 bearing deal that took place in '70. I have a 418-C which has an Eaton 1100 and 8 pinion differential that I plow snow with and the GT-14 with the ten pinion limited slip with a new spring that has a loader. The amount of wheel spin on the two is about the same, nearly nonexistent. The GT-14 has over 100 pounds of weights per tire, liquid filled tires and chains. The 418 has 80 pounds of weight per tire, liquid filled tires and chains. I have never had a problem with the 10 pinion but I understand that the people who do pulling tractors prefer the eight pinion for their durability.
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VR1 would be about the same as any oil made for use in a deisal engine. Not too sure how long an Indy Car or a Space Ship would hold up with ValvolineVR1 or Rotella 30
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The TORO / Wheel Horse number for your 312-8 drive belt is 7473 which is a 82" X 5/8" V Belt. Many of us have used the Tractor Supply Kevlar belts with good results. Bew very cautious about buying belts on that are listed with TORO numbers, many of them are not the correct width and will not work. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/huskee-v-belt-5-8-in-x-82-in-oc-4461826?
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Hauled Home a Beautiful 312-8
Mike'sHorseBarn replied to Mike'sHorseBarn's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
That spot is white paint over the red, I'd live to know what happened there lol -
I just turned 40. My hope is to be able to drop to part time, in a low-stress, lower-pay field around 59. My wife still being at a job where I can stay on her insurance is a key part of that plan though.
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So you bought the seat and got the rest for free. BUT< YOU MAY HAVE OVERPAID.
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Hauled Home a Beautiful 312-8
Mike'sHorseBarn replied to Mike'sHorseBarn's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Its good and tight. I'll grab a pic of of it. If I was going to replace it I'd have to find a other walbro. I believe the correct one would be a walbro #52 -
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August 2, 1943, a Japanese destroyer rams an American PT (patrol torpedo) boat, No. 109, slicing it in two. The destruction is so massive other American PT boats in the area assume the crew is dead. Two crewmen were, in fact, killed, but 11 survived, including Lt. John F. Kennedy.
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32 inch side discharge mower deck question ??
peter lena replied to Brockport Bill's topic in Implements and Attachments
@Brockport Bill those 37,s are rough for functional gain / improvement . major reason ? idler pulley , lubrication failure / incrementive belt hang up , starting a BELT BOUNCE , quickly overpowers any all ,function , gave one away that I got in a swap , for a regular 36" R/D deck , very easily refitted , with bearing lube change out / up grade , CLUE ? the belt bounce on those 37,s , is showing / telling you what is failing . just my own experience pete -
@ Mikes Horse Barn, great pick up on that ! regular for me on any pick up . is to , quickly / easily get a paint save going on ? like a penetrating oil spray down , let it soak in a few days , then wipe it down with a , soft clean cloth , next stage , rubit down with clean miner oiled cloth , that paint condition , should pop right thru , any grunge . preserving / enhancing what you have is , is vital , after that , a clean mineral oiled cloth rub down , will keep it looking fresh . those plows , really really come to life , with QUADRANT SWING ACTION , DETAILING , SQUESE LEVER START, DETAILING , very easy , luck you ! pete
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I think that may be a Walbro carb. Had one on the 1988, 312-8 I sold last year. Any pictures of the carb. Tried to replace it with a Kohler carb, but the air cleaner plate was different.
