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Evening, Went to start 856 today after new battery.. old then brand new non ethanol fuel.. brand new fuel lines.. filter.. electric fuel pump.. new aftermarket carb.. newly wired and brand new ignition.. has spark.. but tractor wouldn’t even attempt to run other than just turning over from key.. issue most likely the carb needing fuel and air screws adjusted keeping it from running? Also noticed fuel leaking from the brass fuel pump fittings (ideas to stop this fuel pump leak?) and from newly replaced under tank fuel valve.. and noticed a liquid (fuel?) every so often dripping from the muffler, just a drip every now and then when turning key attempting to get started with engine turning over but no combustion happening. Why would it be dripping from there?
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Like Dan always says stock headlights are more akin to holding a candle in front of you.
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What have you done to your Wheel Horse today?
WHX?? replied to Ed Kennell's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Given the scarcity of original seats i never give fault for deviating from orginal. I do get a charge and draw the line at boat seats tho. -
Luck of the draw when a rod goes it generally takes out the cam or goes the other way and hole the block. Balance gears might have saved the block so they are good for something. Kinda like when lightning strikes ... all bets are off on what's gonna happen.
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I was kind of wondering if possibly the rod went first, due to the amount of galling. But that's crazy that it would take out both balance gears and nothing else. I don't know on the oil part the small amount of oil left in the pan was obviously dirty and full of metal but that doesn't really mean anything in this case.
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Good point Ineed
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I've never done a bunch of forensics on failures but it looks like the rod was destined to fail regardless of what might have been going on with the balance gears. I'm wondering if the oil had ever been changed or occasionally checked.
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Sure do! Key is to stay humble enough to know you will never know everything, and someone will always know more then you.
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jeff w the white belts were wh's attempt to lessen the jerkiness when you let out the clutch. at least that is what i recall from many years ago.
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What have you done to your Wheel Horse today?
Fj40z replied to Ed Kennell's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Did a little more mowing this evening, really enjoyed operating it for a hour or so. The Toro zero turn seat is turning out to be very comfortable, the thought of an original seat is mighty tempting though. -
Thanks for the reply. Lots of options and quite the price range.
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@ebinmaine Makes sense, would have never figured that out on my own.
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Found where I saw it on garden tractor pulling tips I missed the part where it says certain magnum engines had the 3 balance gears not all of them.
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856: stick on mount fire extinguisher ideas?
WHX?? replied to FLtractor's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
Visual Sylvia? -
Some one got lucky then. that coulda easily went the other way. Crank will buff out. I thought they only had two.
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A friend gave me this engine that I assume the balancer gears let loose first and broke the rod. What's interesting is I am finding no damage on the camshaft Or anywhere on the block other then maybe a few scuffs. The bottom apron of the cylinder walls are all good no cracks or broken pieces and the oil pan is good as well. The crank shaft is very galled up with aluminum from the rod, hoping that cleans up good. I was half thinking I could convert the block back to a K series but there is one thing preventing that and that is there is no hole (not even plugged) for the points plunger and no threaded holes for the points or cover either. And I am about 95% sure that the camshaft has a lobe for the point, I can feel a machined surface behind the gear. But honestly the magnums ignition system are way better anyway the only thing is I would like the K series tins better, might be able to work a tin to fit. One other thing I thought I read that the Magnums had 3 balance gears this one had 2, with no place for a 3rd one to even go.
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856: stick on mount fire extinguisher ideas?
Pullstart replied to FLtractor's topic in Wheel Horse Tractors
The things we think of later in life… -
well I ended up having to buy the D180 and a d160 and a snowblower just to get the 180.. 160 cranks has good compression and is a workable project,, the 180 well not clue yet.. not sure what to do with one of them,,
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that I haven't done but will thanks.
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Comparison of the stock headlight with standard bulbs and my headlight mod. I want to do this to all my tractors now
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2026 Big Show Buy/Sell/Trade Thread
Dan 312-8 replied to Pullstart's topic in Wheel Horse Collectors Club Show
Anyone near this that is coming to the show?
